Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 National Express coach accidents


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The result was   merge to National Express Coaches. Black Kite (t) (c) 21:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

2007 National Express coach accidents

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At the time of these accidents, especially the main one, there was a whole bunch of news coverage. Coach accidents aren't very common in the UK; our roads are generally quite good (even if I grumble that accross on the English side of the border the A1 still isn't dualed...) and so news coverage was inevitable. It looked likely to remain big for some time. However, there has been no lasting impact and there is no long-term notability. WP:NOTNEWS applies; yes, a coach crash is gonna get news coverage. But no laws changed, no anything changed, and - tragic or possibly beautiful though this fact is - life goes on. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:09, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete No historical significance. --Diego Grez (talk) 00:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I would only support this if the information contained therein was merged into National Express Coaches and used to expand the relatively small Incidents section so that the info/sources aren't lost. WillDow (Talk) 08:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above. No objection to properly merging over any sourced info to the National Express Coaches article. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:32, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cirt (talk) 11:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per massive coverage in WP:RS more than sufficient for WP:NOTE; as the nominator observes, incidents such as this are quite infrequent, which also suggests notability. WP:NOTNEWS doesn't apply, because this subject isn't "routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities" which the policy proscribes. Peter Karlsen (talk) 16:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:EFFECT. No lasting impact. Bus crashes may be rare but it's still just routine news, like any other rare accident that is news worthy but not encyclopedia worthy.--137.122.49.102 (talk) 18:28, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge (with some pruning of excessive detail) to National Express Coaches. The incidents fail WP:NOTNEWS and infrequency does not equate with notability. Jimmy Pitt   talk  20:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:42, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge as above and possibly Transwiki the details to Wikinews. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 07:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is a classic case of recentism I like this subject matter not news and no lasting notability. The article fails on each of the above policies spectacularly and prime for immediate deletion on those grounds.--Lucy-marie (talk) 11:44, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge - to National Express Coaches per Jimmy Pitt above. Keristrasza (talk) 10:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 16:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. WP:EVENT requires significant coverage, lasting coverage and lasting impact. This certainly has significant coverage, and it appears to span two yeras until November 2008, so it meets the first two. That leaves impact. This BBC report from February 2010 says that NatEx added Alcolocks its entire fleet as a direct result of the event, which for me is a lasting impact. On this basis it meets all three requirements so is notable. WP:NOTNEWS doesn't apply as this is by no means routine coverage. Alzarian16 (talk) 09:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS concerns. No lasting significance or historical impact, a one-time event. Tarc (talk) 13:47, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge Not notable on its own, but too good to waste. Sources and all should mosy on over to National Express Coaches per willdow. Another case of "All N are V, but not all V are N" Sven Manguard  Talk  20:28, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
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