Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 Romanian Air Force IAR-330 SOCAT crash (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  05:03, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

2007 Romanian Air Force IAR-330 SOCAT crash
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Fails WP:AIRCRASH for military accidents. No one notable on board. ...William 18:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions.  ...William 18:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions.  ...William 18:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  ...William 18:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.  ...William 18:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - tragic but regrettably non-notable military aircraft crash. Military aircraft crash more often overall, and have more fatal crashes, than civilian aircraft; with no Wikinotable people killed, no WP:PERSISTENCE, and no "superlatives" (most fatalities, etc.), this doesn't rise to the level of where it needs to be included in Wikipedia as anything more than a line in the type or service article. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - this was discussed already long time ago and the consensus was 'keep'. The article is a properly referenced B-class article in good overall shape and I see no reason why to delete it now. --Eurocopter (talk) 21:56, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Because even properly referenced B-class articles in good overall shape can fail Wikipedia's notability standards? Which this one does. Also, consensus can change. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:06, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and WP:NOTNEWS. Alternatively, follow the precedent of Articles for deletion/1965 Fort Benning Mid-Air Helicopter Collision, which described a more deadly crash, and merge to RoAF 90th Airlift Base. --BDD (talk) 22:35, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That merge could certainly work. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd have no problem with a merge....William 22:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Bushranger. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Bushranger, no reason why it cant be mentioned in related list articles. MilborneOne (talk) 19:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, The Bushranger and BDD. Two other discussions about very similar events are Articles for deletion/2010 Israeli Air Force Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion crash and Articles for deletion/AH.9 Lynx crash. The former was in Romania and the latter in the Czech Republic, both articles were deleted; both events (and this crash) have mentions in the List of accidents and incidents involving military aircraft (2000–present), which is full of similar crashes around the world and which is IMO a sufficient record for Wikipedia, so no merging required. YSSYguy (talk) 06:52, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
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