Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Tennessee/2


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Keep (NAC) - Nominator has not proposed a deletion; merges do not need to go through WP:AFD. Shirik (talk) 06:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Tennessee and related articles
AfDs for this article: 

These articles are very well developed and have been a result of a lot of work. But these are non-notable scares that were criminal but not more than hate, news, and non-notable events.

The Tennessee and Denver articles are very long but the police admit that these were just early failures, early cases that don't even resemble a real assassination or attempts (like JFK or that guy in the Republic of Georgia) but just some evil clowns with stupid ideas (which is still punishable by jail so don't copy them. Standard TV warning: Kids, don't do this at home)

The original AFD was speedily closed as pointy, but since there is a standard of what applies, we should apply these standards uniformly. Since another article has significant delete support, the same standard should apply. That's like speeding, you don't execute one driver but give a medal to another speeder.

I think the best compromise would be to merge all 3 assassination plots so we can see and compare the 3. JB50000 (talk) 03:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge all 3 articles Together they are probably notable, individually, they are just news of the day non-notable stuff. Merging them would not be pointy at all but the most sensible. JB50000 (talk) 03:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep author is newbie and misunderstands the purpose of AfDs after this. AfDs are for deletion, not merger-discussions. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per Seb's reasoning, this AFD is unnessesary. ArcAngel (talk) 03:50, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This should be speedily closed per this nomination. ArcAngel (talk) 04:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No that would be bad judgement. Let the people speed, not try to muzzle them.  Then you can claim legitimacy.  Otherwise, it is railroading.  Discussion is always best! JB50000 (talk) 04:06, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep the Tennessee article-- it involved what appears to have been a plan for mass murder, delete the Denver article. But either way, let people discuss this.  I really don't like at all the way the previous debate was handled (User:Dougweller did his own "speedy close"  based on "One of these articles is already having an AfD, thus it is inappropriate to raise another. This seems to be an attempt to make a WP:POINT"), nor do I like the tone of the comments about the nominator.  It isn't fair to, as JB50000 accurately describes it, "muzzle" other people.  Mandsford (talk) 04:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't seem to understand. The nominator of the AfD votes for "merge" - thus, it's not an AfD. It's a "nomination withdrawn". (I could just as well nominate all 3 million articles for deletion and then vote keep for all of them) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

As a side, this nomination was incomplete: articles aren't tagged, orginal author and contributors not notified, relist-box not added. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:10, 27 December 2009 (UTC) Fixed. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep – nominator is trying to make a point (see: ANI thread, AFD 1, AFD 2). —  æk Talk 05:36, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.