Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 ITF Women's Circuit- Delhi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 18:43, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

2009 ITF Women's Circuit- Delhi

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I have never seen such a poor article with bias. Anyway, this is for a 10 K tournament, Wikipedia, do not do these types of pages for tournaments of this value. We draw a line with the challengers and any joint woman's tournament with the challengers. We do not create articles for what is essentally a bunch of non notable people, if this article stays then we might as well do every tournament that the ITF/ATP and WTA sanction. Creating endless pages of crap KnowIG (talk) 09:35, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related pages because they will have no context and will be random orphans when main page is deleted:


 * Merge to 2009 ITF Women's Circuit provided there is proper sourcing to show that it happened. While I don't see the "bias", I think it's equally odd that there's no information about the dates that the tournament would have taken place. The 2009 circuit article doesn't list any singles tournament where Poojashree Venkatesha was the winner; it has one in Hyderabad where she and another person won the doubles.  There is a listing of a tournament in New Delhi where Venkatesha didn't reach the quarterfinals, if she played in it at all.  Mandsford 16:40, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Looking at Emily Webley-Smith's page on the WTA Tour site, it appears that multiple ITF tournaments were held in New Delhi in 2009. Webley-Smith apparently played in two different tournaments there in consecutive weeks; the latter one ("New Delhi 4") is the one this article appears to be about. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:19, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:10, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep and Merge - I have a suggestion: why do not to merge in a one single page (.... Asia tennis women Tournements ), the following pages 2009 ITF Women's Circuit- Delhi, 2009 ITF Women's Circuit- Delhi – Doubles, 2009 ITF Women's Circuit- Delhi – Singles, 2010 ITF Women's Circuit- Hatyai, 2011 ITF Women's Circuit: Mumbai . I notice that all there pages are proposed for deletion !!! The best way: Merge all the pages in one page.It is necessary to keep pages on the women  sports. There is a considerable cost to the encyclopedia to eliminate its pages....Wikipedia has a serious deficit of female readers and female editors, and that is a problem, and this sort of thing doesn't help (references Wikipedia: This is a man's world, Where Are the Women in Wikipedia?. It is necessary to preserve this page and to improve it with merge with the another pages of women Tournements. Bonne chance,--Geneviève (talk) 20:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Keep because the article is not biased and is no worse than the last article for which the nominator said he had "never seen such a poor article with bias". Article can be re-nominated later if necessary. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 04:43, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, this one is probably worse than any of the other ones nominated. Forget the over-the-top wording of the nomination, and forget for a moment that $10,000 ITF tournaments are not notable.   As noted above, I don't see any proof that it actually happened.  There's no source to verify it, and it isn't mentioned at all in the article 2009 ITF Women's Circuit, which kept track of such things.  V for Verifiable is the #1 requirement for an encyclopedia that anyone can edit.  Mandsford 17:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * But the WTA Tour lists it in the relevant players' activity listings. At WTA's page for Poojashree Venkatesha, it is stated that she won the New Delhi 4 ITF $10,000 tournament on August 10, 2009, defeating Emily Webley-Smith in the final 7-6(8), 6-2, exactly as this article says. Similarly, the WTA Tour page for Venkatesha's doubles activity in 2009 also lists her as winning the doubles event of this tournament with the same partner and opponents in the final as listed in this article. There may be reasons to delete this article such as non-notability, but we shouldn't delete it based on spurious grounds. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete there are usually never ITF tournaments articles and I think Wikipedia doesn't have any, because the ITF tournaments are the lowest tennis tournaments. Also the prize money is only $10,000; the lowest for any tennis tournaments, even for ITF. Strong delete.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete This level of tournament is simply not notable. Even the 100k level tournaments seldom receive substantial coverage even at a local level.  That said, there is clearly no bias in the article and I do not know where that assertion came from.  Ravendrop 01:12, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and striking out my prior suggestion of a merge. If it happened, then mention it in the article about the 2009 ITF women's season.   A $10,000 ITF event, whether involving women or men, no matter where it took place, is not presumed notable and there's no reason to believe that this one would be.  Mandsford 15:27, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
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