Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 National Scrabble Championship


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

2009 National Scrabble Championship

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Unreferenced event with no claim of notability. PRODed with " The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline nor the more detailed Notability (events)'s supplement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar.". PROD removed with copy-paste unhelpful rationale by User:Andrew Davidson. Let's discuss... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:06, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Per the 2010 discussion, for further analysis and to achieve consensus on sources presented.
 * Keep. I found two reliable sources for the winner, including the Associated Press. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , The first source is one paragraph long, the second is a WP:INTERVIEW with the winner. Those would be poor sources for the biography of the winner, and IMHO they are terrible for the article about the 2009 tournament, which is mentioned just in passing - they both fail WP:SIGCOV by a long shot. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * One paragraph from the Associated Press, not your local paper, and the second is not an interview. It quotes him twice, but that's all. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:27, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , We could nitpick this, but the key problem is that the sources are about him, not the tournament, and you haven't addressed the SIGCOV issue. The sources you found are about a person (the winner), not the tournament. The tournament - certainly, its 2009 edition - doesn't have stand-alone notability. Winners can be mentioned in the North American Scrabble Championship (I think they already are). There is no reason to have stand-alone pages for each year of the tournament. I suggest you copy your sources there since it would be a bit of a waste if they disappear together with that article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 05:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or redirect to North American Scrabble Championship. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the identified sources are not nearly enough to show the competition was notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. This 2009 edition and the 2010 National Scrabble Championship are the only two in the 1978–2019 National Scrabble Championship winners set that currently have articles. Both are barely stubs, have not expanded in 10+ years, and the core of its information is already found at North American Scrabble Championship. Cordially, History DMZ (HQ ) † (wire ) 00:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 10:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Current sources doesn't passes WP:GNG. Cuoxo (talk) 16:31, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. per nom. Seem to fail GNG. Nigej (talk) 14:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete --CanadianToast (talk) 20:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)


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