Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 UCLA throat slashing


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

2009 UCLA throat slashing

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Although this was a tragic event, it does not appear to meet the criteria for event notability outlined at WP:EVENT. In particular, "[r]outine kinds of news events (including most crimes, accidents, deaths, celebrity or political news, "shock" news, stories lacking lasting value such as "water cooler stories," and viral phenomena) - whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time - are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance." — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 00:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - with University of California, Los Angeles. I don't believe that the press coverage was sustained over a significant period of time. Hence, it probably does not meet WP:EVENT. However, the event does deserve coverage in Wikipedia, and I propose that it be merged in to become a paragraph in the history section of the UCLA article. Racepacket (talk) 02:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing which could be merged to the article about the university, even a single sentence, without giving the incident undue weight. There was local press coverage and an AP story. Total Google News archive coverage only was during October 8-12 2009. Classic instance where WP:NOTNEWS and WP:BLP1E justify deletion of the stabbing incident. Otherwise every bar fight with a broken beer bottle and every knife attack in the history of every school in the world should be added to the articles about the schools. Wikipedia is not a chronicle of every case of attempted murder. Edison (talk) 02:53, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * People expect Chem labs to explode and bars to have beer-bottle fights, but a throat slashing in the Chem lab is remarkable. As a precedent, the University of Maryland, College Park article makes reference to the death of Len Bias. Racepacket (talk) 08:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Notability is not defined by how "remarkable" an editor perceives the event to have been. The death of Len Bias is far beyond comparison for multiple reasons, primarily because he was notable before his death, his death meets the criteria set forth in WP:EVENT, and he was not a murder victim. (There were apparently 124 murders on college campuses in the United States just between 1998 to 2003. I haven't checked on who they were, but I doubt most of them are mentioned in their respective college or university articles.) Location (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Not a historical WP:EVENT, didn't go beyond WP:NOTNEWS. Definitely no merge to the UCLA article.  Mandsford 03:12, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, do not merge. UCLA is a large school with a fairly long history. This is insignificant and should not be merged. As a standalone article, it does not meet the notability standards listed above.   Will Beback    talk    04:56, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not every murder or attempted murder in the USA is notable and this one doesn't qualify for exceptionalism. MLA (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS, WP:BLP1E, and Edison's argument above. --TorriTorri(talk/contribs) 00:08, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:EVENT & WP:GNG. Article only mentioned ten times; no lasting effect. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 06:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Retrieval on "2009 UCLA throat slashing" is not the most effective way to perform a Google search for this topic. Racepacket (talk) 11:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:EVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. There needs to be something beyond a short news cycle to take this out of the realm of news coverage and put it into Wikipedia. Location (talk) 04:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete for all the good reasons already given. Niteshift36 (talk) 05:15, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.