Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Buffalo State Bengals football team


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. If someone wants to merge this with similar pages I would be happy to userfy it to them. J04n(talk page) 00:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

2010 Buffalo State Bengals football team

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See first nomination. Non-notable sports season, per WP:ROUTINE and WP:CFBSEASON. Edge3 (talk) 00:53, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  hmssolent \Let's convene My patrols 05:21, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:28, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Merge into the page for the team, or (if there are a large number of seasons) into a single page on all seasons of this team. bd2412  T 00:59, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Per failed first nomination, and lack of good faith on the part of the nominator for failing to attempt to find alternative solutions to deletion. Ejgreen77 (talk) 15:57, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. EJ, the first nomination "failed" because the nominator submitted multiple season article from multiple teams in a single AfD, and multiple AfD participants felt that the articles should be considered individually, not en masse.  That sort of "no consensus" situation practically invites a resubmission of the articles individually; this is not a "bad faith" AfD given the circumstances.  I urge you to reconsider your choice of words: the AfD nominator has done absolutely nothing wrong in resubmitting this article individually.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Dirtlawyer, my main complaint here is that the nominator has continued to rush to AfD without attempting to dialogue at either my talk page, WP:CFB, or on any of the talk pages of the individual articles. I would be willing to consider a merge to a List of Buffalo State Bengals football seasons article, or as sub-sections of the main Buffalo State Bengals football article. The nominator has made no attempt to explore any other alternative solutions besides deletion. Certainly between the first and second nominations, there should have been an attempt to dialogue about finding an alternative solution to these articles. That's just common courtesy. Ejgreen77 (talk) 18:03, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Understood, EJ, and maybe he should have, but it's not required. Arguably, that dialogue takes place during the AfD, and in the case of CFB articles and lists, it's usually refereed by other regular CFB editors.  In this case, I would urge you to consider creating a season-decade article or something similar to combine these Buffalo State seasons per WP:CFBSEASON.  I would support keeping that per established WikiProject CFB policy and precedent.  Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Ejgreen77, I understand your concerns, and I also agree with much of Dirtlawyer's comments. I did not intend to "rush" through the deletion process; indeed, roughly three months have passed since the first AfD. The closing admin for the first AfD invited re-nomination of individual articles, which I did here. The AfD discussions are open to all, including WikiProject CFB, yourself, and other interested users. Here we can discuss a wide variety of options, not only deletion. Even if some of the discussions result in deletion, that won't stop you from creating new articles that combine individual seasons (by decade, for example, as per WP:CFBSEASON). Edge3 (talk) 00:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 09:33, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Note - You may be interested in participating in the following deletion discussions. Each article was submitted individually, as per the recommendation of the closing admin at the first nomination. I apologize for not mentioning this at the beginning of the discussion.
 * Articles for deletion/2011 Buffalo State Bengals football team
 * Articles for deletion/2011 St. Norbert Green Knights football team
 * Articles for deletion/2010 Buffalo State Bengals football team
 * Articles for deletion/2010 St. Norbert Green Knights football team
 * Articles for deletion/2009 Buffalo State Bengals football team
 * Articles for deletion/2009 St. Norbert Green Knights football team
 * Articles for deletion/2008 St. Norbert Green Knights football team
 * Best, -- Edge3 (talk) 13:09, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. This article is about a non-notable single season of a minor college football program, and there is insufficient in-depth coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources to establish the subject's notability per WP:GNG.  In such event, the only alternative to deletion is to combine this season with others for the same team by decade, coaching tenure, or other logical grouping, per WP:CFBSEASON.  I respectfully request the article creator propose some combination/merge consistent with the practices of WP:CFBSEASON; otherwise, the only alternative is deletion.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per Dirtlawyer1. A 4-6 season is even less notable than the 2011 season above. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:23, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.