Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Philippine network television schedule (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Secret account 04:07, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

2010 Philippine network television schedule
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Per WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Kiddie Techie (talk) 06:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep a general schedule like this is not a TV guide. A TV guide gives the specifics of programs from week to week. Rather, this is basic information about Philippine network television. It's the first thing any reader would want to know.  DGG ( talk ) 07:22, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete It claims to be the TV guide for a specific week. I don't know how you can say this is not a TV guide: what is a TV guide if not a list of the times that each program starts in a particular week? If there was narrative text about scheduling decisions, ratings, etc, that would be legitimate. I also dispute that this is the first thing a reader would want to know - why would they want to know what was on TV on 6 December 2010? --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, This is a TV Guide & should be gone!. Davey 2010   Talk  11:43, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete: Does indeed fit the description of a TV Guide. Don't buy the WP:ITSUSEFUL argument, either. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 12:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not sure about the legitimacy of TV schedules here in general (see also Lists of United States network television schedules and Lists of Canadian network television schedules for more examples) but this one definitely fails WP:NOTTVGUIDE. Not only is it unreferenced, being "effective from 6 December 2010" means it only runs for less than 4 weeks in 2010. User:Howard_the_Duck also raised a valid point in the previous Afd - in that Filipino TV doesn't follow standard TV seasons like in American and Canadian programming, so to describe that this is a general schedule doesn't really hold that much weight. Funny  Pika! 13:13, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:49, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep on the presumption that there is generally discussion about competition of network television in the Philippines as there is in the US. This has been a point of issue before that while it may appear to be a TV guide, it appears to be presenting a broader picture of the television line up for the nation from its over-the-air channels. We do this for the US (eg 2012–13 United States network television schedule), and I remember discussing the finer points of when this is a schedule and when this crosses the line to a TV guide a few years ago at WT:NOT. But again, my keep here is based on the fact that I would expect competition between network stations to be the subject of sourced discussion which these articles support. --M ASEM  (t) 02:04, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete I try to search online using the Google search engine for references for the article to be save but theres no exact information found on the internet regarding Philippines TV Schedule on 2010. I believe that this article should be deleted as it credibility is questionable since theres no proofs for the information that this article is providing -- Vhincze(Talk)


 * Comment My comments on the first AFD has to be read for context. Unlike in the US where there are "seasons", or a program airs on a specific period of the year on a specific number of seasons, then returns to the same time next year if the ratings are good, Philippine TV programs go on and on (Daily episodic programs are usually ordered for a season of 13 weeks) until ratings go bad, then never returns again, unless there's clamor for a sequel or a reboot.
 * That means you'd never find sources of TV schedules in a specific time period in one place. It's always the latest "schedules".
 * The only way anything like this could be accurate is to keep track of which programs end, start, and change time slots. If any of those things happen. This is not as regular like in the US where programs where programs are grouped on the time of the year when they start and end (either September/October->May, May->September/October). In this article, presumably this is only accurate as of December 31. – H  T  D  03:49, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: If anyone wants to check out things, 2010 in the Philippines has a list of programs that started and ended in 2010. One can cross-reference the two lists, and can come up with a schedule that shows when the program started and ended. – H T  D  04:16, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is exactly what WP:NOTTVGUIDE was meant to address. Go elsewhere for this kind of info, not to an encyclopedia. Tarc (talk) 13:20, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - yes there's a lot of discussion over a so-called "network war" over here, but mainly on blogs and forums. There's actually little, if any, independent coverage on television schedules over here. But more importantly, Wikipedia is not a television guide. As for TV shows, reruns are almost unheard of, and official DVDs are rather rare, so coverage for very old programs is also hard to come by. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:41, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


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