Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Players Championship (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Dipankan ( Have a chat? ) 10:07, 29 May 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

2010 Players Championship
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Individual editions of regular season golf tournaments other WGC events do not normally have long term notability, and this is no exception.


 * ...William 19:30, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions.  ...William 19:35, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Golf-related deletion discussions.  ...William 19:35, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment First two AFDs, both from 2010, closed as no consensus. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:45, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply I was aware of the first debate but not the second....William 19:48, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. There are no subject-specific criteria for notability of golf tournaments: WP:NGOLF only covers golfers. The tournament itself is a small-m-major event and each edition clearly generates a huge amount of media coverage that's a slam-dunk case for WP:GNG. (One of the previous AFDs suggests that news coverage is scant outside the USA but I found large amounts of coverage in UK media.) Notability is not temporary, so the claim that there is no "long term notability" doesn't make sense.  In any case, sports coverage often makes passing reference to events from the past so it's likely that each tournament will continue to be mentioned occasionally. At present, the 2010 article is mostly a list of stats, which violates WP:NOTDIR (I didn't look at the rest of them) but the fact that the article is currently in a poor state is not a reason to delete it: it's a reason to use some of the multitude of available sources to improve it. Dricherby (talk) 11:29, 23 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep for me. It's the highest purse in golf, and attracts a field similar to a major.  It gets world ranking points higher than any other non-major (by a fair margin).  The PGA Tour does not run any of the four majors, so this is their signature event (famous course by now because of it; the island green on the 17th, etc.).  Winners get exempted from other majors for three years mostly, more than any other non-major tournament. This tournament does have notability that lasts, based on the strength of the field.  The PGA Tour schedule is generally set up with one highly significant tournament a month -- Masters in April, Players Championship in May, US Open in June, British Open in July, and the PGA Championship in August.  It is sometimes called the "fifth major" for a reason.  I still stand by my comments in the second nomination. Carl Lindberg (talk) 23:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong keep Notability is for the Players Championship, one of the most recognized tournaments in golf. Individual events are broken out for size and aesthetic reasons, and should not have to meet the GNG on their own.  It would be cumbersome in the extreme to merge all tournaments since 1974 into one article, and I suggest that the nominator keep this in mind when tagging such articles.    Th e S te ve   11:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - other sports also have similar articles (in all, they account for more than 200 articles approx which are like these). This is obviously a notable event itself. All of them should be kept.  →TSU tp* 10:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Neutral. Clearly shows that there needs to be a list of notable events worthy of year by year coverage. Field is comparable in strength to the WGC events (ranked 7th strongest in 2011 by OWGR. see Official World Golf Ranking) and only gets more ranking points than the WGC events because it has a guaranteed 80. "Fifth major" tag is a red-herring. Never was a fifth major, never will be. Not sure prize money is a relevant point either. Plenty of big money events over the years e.g. Nedbank Golf Challenge. The FedEx Cup events get their own pages: 2011 FedEx Cup Playoffs so the Players Championship would stand out if it didn't have a page. We also have the issue of the European Tour BMW PGA Championship: see 2012 BMW PGA Championship. Should one be included and not the other? - both flagship events for the 2 main tours. Winner of last 3 BMW PGA Championships gets exempted from 2012 Open Championship. Danger of taking an American point of view here.Nigej 12:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
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