Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2010 Venezuela earthquake


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Merge discussions can take place on the talk page of the article if necessary. NW ( Talk ) 18:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

2010 Venezuela earthquake

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A moderate earthquake with no injuries or damage in a country that experiences them frequently. I really don't see how this is notable other than it happening to occur in the same week as the deadly earthquake in Haiti. RapidR (talk) 17:35, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:53, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete No deaths or injuries, not notable. 5.6 isn't that bad. As for press, just about every earthquake that people can feel will get some press. Just imagine how many articles would be created if every moderate earthquake got a article, California would alone would have a couple dozen every year.  TJ   Spyke   18:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. The quake was Venezuela's most significant since November 27th, 2009. That was, like, seven weeks ago? However, I would like to comment about magnitude being used as a notability criterion: one should look at 1960 Agadir earthquake. No, the magnitude in that article is not a typo. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 18:37, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:47, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:GNG. General notability is established by significant independent 3rd party coverage, not by editors' opinions of what is important, and what is not. This qualifies under that guideline. A one second search on Google for Venezuala earthquake revealed numerous sources. In light of the recent nearby devastating quake in Haiti, it can reasonably be said there is large amount of interest in this topic at the moment.--Cdogsimmons (talk) 20:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What sources make this notable? Merely stating that the earthquake happened is not much. Almost every earthquake/tornado/other natural disaster will get multiple third party reports. The fact that one was hurt or killed and nothing was even damaged shows how significant this earthquake was (and as others stated, Venezuela gets earthquakes pretty frequently). At most this gets a brief mention in local news, this isn't even worth mentioning in Wikinews.  TJ   Spyke   21:44, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't see any significant coverage. I did a Google search (of the 2 sources in the article, 1 is a deadlink and the other is just the US Geological report stating the location of the earthquake) and the only coverage seems to be stating that the earthquake happened and that there was no damage.  TJ   Spyke   21:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Passes WP:GNG as per Cdogsimmons above. There are multiple hits on Google to CNN and other articles. I have added more references. A well written and formatted article. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 23:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Passes notability standards, even if the event itself was mild when compared to other quakes. Eddie.willers (talk) 00:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Bear in mind that the news coverage of this quake will be exaggerated following the Haiti earthquake, and under normal circumstances this would not be expected to have any significant international media coverage. Venezuela had a 5.5 in May 09, a damaging 6.3 in September 2009, a 5.4 in November 2009, a 5.4 on Jan 5 2010 and now this. This quake is nothing special, and nothing out of the ordinary as far as quakes are concerned. It is just another moderate earthquake, one of over 1000 that will occur during this year around the world. No doubt there will be other quakes of similar size in Venezuela this year, and this one will fade from memory pretty quickly. RapidR (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Even if it is featured because of the Haiti Earthquake, it still has notability. The title, however concerns me. I don't have any better ones though NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 02:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. The arguments for retention given above amount to "it's well written and formatted" and "there are some references in the news about it".  A couple of day-of-event online news stubs stating that an event occurred does not give any indication of the "enduring notability" of this earthquake:  "While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion" (WP:NOTNEWS).  If there were a List of earthquakes in Venezuela, this would merit a row in the table and should be merged there.  Otherwise, this is a completely forgettable earthquake with no need for a standalone article.   Glenfarclas   ( talk ) 03:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: No, the argument is that it passes WP:GNG. I.e., there is significant coverage from reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Of course, different Wikipedia guidelines may well be contradictory — and a matter of judgment re "significant", etc. — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 21:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:SBST It makes me feel silly to undo my vote in two consecutive RfD, but I feel (after thoroughly reading it) that SBST applies here. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 05:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete/merge - no lasting significance. NB there seems to be no general article for the topic like Earthquakes in Venezuela? That might be a place to mention it (in a footnote perhaps). Otherwise, just delete. Rd232 talk 19:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Plenty of news coverage. Thinking someone could make an article listing all of the earthquakes in that region.  If any have enough happen because of them to expand into their own article, then so be it.  Since there is nowhere to merge this information to now, keep it here.   D r e a m Focus  20:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - I focus my work here in the realm of earthquakes (and volcanoes) and generally earthquakes under 8.0 that do not kill people or are not the greatest in country/state history are not notable. Sure, all earthquakes over magnitude 4 get significant news coverage, but that goes back as far as news has existed, so the argument that its notable because there is news coverage is quite weak.  ceran  thor 22:34, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, the usual standard for earthquake lists is List of earthquakes in....  ceran  thor 22:35, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to voice support for merging the article into the aforementioned list.  ceran  thor 02:00, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete not a notable earthquake. Case of NOTNEWS.Bali ultimate (talk) 00:47, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I started the List of earthquakes in Venezuela page, per Ceranthor's suggestion; that page needs work but has a start.  Otherwise I say keep in light of the circumstances of the Haiti quake, if only to note that the human response was much larger than any actual damage.  Edward Vielmetti (talk) 06:52, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep: A notable earthquake. Ret.Prof (talk) 13:37, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you explain why you think it is notable? RapidR (talk) 15:21, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. Maybe this article could be turned into one article which references all earthquakes that registered over 5 that occurred in 2010.  This would allow for people to make comments on each of the earthquakes.  It would also allow interested parties to track, or keep up on what is happening around the would in terms of earthquakes.  Was there more or less earthquakes in 2010 than in 2009?  Were they more or less severe?  I personally am interested in tracking changes in earth behaviours.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.204.168 (talk) 16:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Every earthquake is a unique event that creates its own problems and affects a specific group of people. For historical/research purposes this article might serve as valuable information sometime in the future.  --AStanhope (talk) 20:20, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If we had an article on every minor earthquake such as this one, the quality of this project would be seriously damaged.  ceran  thor 20:41, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to List of earthquakes in Venezuela Polarpanda (talk) 14:58, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to List of earthquakes in Venezuela. Sole Soul (talk) 21:19, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep – The sources given seem to prove notability. (I don't see how the fourth reference was a dead link.) I think that it was covered up by the severity of the Haitian earthquake, and therefore did not receive as much news coverage as it should have. — MC10 ( T • C • GB •L)  03:46, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.