Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 NFL Undrafted Free Agents


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 00:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

2011 NFL Undrafted Free Agents

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A standard linkfarm, most of which are red. Clear case of WP:NOT.  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 07:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC) 07:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

This article serves a purpose and the red links on the names will be updated once some of the players make teams and will have a page created. I am still updating this page so please do not delete. If you can make the page more marketable, please help but this page is very valuable during a very unsual time in the NFL. Thank you carthage44 Talk • 02:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - the appeal only seals neutralhomer's point so eloquently... clear delete.... if you want to know what we're trying to keep wikipedia from becoming, read the above keep rationale. Shadowjams (talk) 08:58, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. Convert redlinks to plaintext. Remove players not mentioned in secondary sources. AfD hero (talk) 09:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep I have converted the red links to plaintext and it looks much cleaner. Many hours have been put into this page and people are always looking for undrafted free agents therefore page should be kept. Carthage44 (Talk) 05:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * — Note to closing admin: Carthage44 (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. —Bagumba (talk) 08:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)


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 * Keep I couldn't find exactly which section of WP:NOT where this article fails to comport. Continue the cleanup process (adding sources, cats, etc).--Hokeman (talk) 20:35, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - I was undrafted in this draft again (even with a stellar 8.00 40-yard-dash time), so I guess I have to be added to this list. There are thousands of players undrafted this year, as there are thousands of players who played as seniors last year. This running list is not useful, and while I applaud the creator for his/her tireless work on it, it simply isn't notable. Typically the most notable undrafted free agents are added to the ends of draft articles, but not the hundred others that aren't that notable.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  21:11, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. There is a distinction between the notability of any particular player, and the notability of the article as a whole. It is perfectly fine for players to be mentioned in this list, even if they are not individually notable. The relevant section of WP:N reads as follows:
 * These notability guidelines only outline how suitable a topic is for its own article or list. They do not directly limit the content of an article or list.. AfD hero (talk) 22:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete because that sounds better than moving the article to List of non-notable American football players in 2011 or List of American football players who couldn't play well enough to make a professional team in 2011. Indeed, some on the list will be notable due to WP:GNG and other factors... but that is not a reason to make this list.  It doesn't appear to be helpful in any way.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - Simple WP:NOTDIRECTORY. It is far more notable to be one of the 254 that are drafted as opposed to the ~2,000 eligible seniors that aren't. Tarc (talk) 12:52, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added a link for a reference that shows only the top prospects that were considered for the 2011 NFL Draft. The list of players on this page will only includ those who were being considered for the draft not just any senior in all of college football. Once again this is a needed page and should stay. Carthage44 (talk) 09:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Ambox warning pn.svg|20px|alt=|link=]] — Duplicate !vote: Carthage44 (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.


 * Delete WP:INDISCRIMINATE seems relevant: "merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." Fails to establish notability as specified by WP:GNG. It is also arbitrary which undrafted players are included on this list, as the list is not complete.  If the page was not obviously notable, it should have been developed in the user space per WP:MINDREADER. —Bagumba (talk) 08:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete completely arbitrary listing with no real verifiable inclusion criteria. It's WP:NOT as well of course. Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:49, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Userfy. I'm going to go off on a tangent - if one editor is using this list to work on bluelinking football players as they sign with teams, why not let him/her userfy it? Notes and working drafts (the article kind) are precisely why we have a userspace. I concur that the list doesn't really work that well as a stand alone article - I wasn't drafted in the 2011 draft either, much to my dismay. Some of the more notable names might find their way to the main 2011 draft article, if references exist - but the entire list isn't quite gonna work in this form. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 14:33, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I got no problem with that.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:26, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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