Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 Ohio exotic animal release


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Clearly consensus is that this is notable at the moment. WP:CCC. obviously. Black Kite (t)  01:41, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

2011 Ohio exotic animal release

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WP:NOTNEWS and no lasting notability. Too may WP articles that should be at wikinews. Lihaas (talk) 07:11, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Neutral - WP:CRYSTAL cuts both ways, it's too early to declare "no lasting notability". - The Bushranger One ping only 07:24, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete Technically, it was not an "escape" - the animals were intentionally let loose. But in any event, it was an isolated freakish incident with no long-lasting historic encyclopedic value. And Adoil Descended (talk) 09:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Muskingum County Animal Farm Delete for right now. Like AAD said, this is one isolated incident and so far doesn't have any real reason to be kept. WP:CRYSTAL does go both ways, but the hubbub from this is generally over. I'm pretty much grasping at straws for reasons to keep this article. So far the only way this would warrant a mention is if it inspired a law of some sort or a group movement. It would be best to merge this to MCAF, the site that all of this took place. As others have stated, either article would be a stub individually. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:23, 20 October 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:EVENT. There appears to be potential lasting effects, as there are some references that discuss what laws would work better. In terms of geographical scope, there was international coverage; I see references from BBC News and The Guardian. The coverage is in-depth and explores different angles of the incident. As for duration, it is still too early to tell, but as I mentioned with possible legal responses, the incident will be referred to. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 17:02, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - This is *not* a routine news item. This is an unusual event that has international attention. The event highlights a contentious issue, and may lead to legislation (lasting effect). Kingturtle = (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - As Erik said, this (at least now) falls within notability guidelines for current events. This may not be the case in the future, but we should have that discussion then, after it's more clear. Pleiotrope (talk) 17:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The event is new, once the ohio police release further information, this can be expanded into a proper article.– Phoenix B 1of3 (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Appears to pass WP:EVENT and not to fall under WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 19:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Given the sheer number of endangered species killed in the incident, there is obvious conservation value to this story.  Night w   19:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into Muskingum County Animal Farm. This is basically two articles on the same thing, the one in question just happens to have a terrible name. I dare say this will be the eventual outcome even if this is officially closed as a keep.  Night w   11:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep An unusual event, which apparently resulted in a mass killing of Bengal tigers. Not a "routine news item." Revisit in 6 months when we know more of the longevity of coverage beyond the news cycle. Edison (talk) 19:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER: "...routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This is not a routine event, and it seems to pass the General Notability Guidelines. It's already received in-depth coverage, and notability is not temporary.  Certainly the impact of this event has not been fully realized, so I agree that we revisit in 6 months after the stub has been fleshed out. ColorOfSuffering (talk) 20:27, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep It is an unusual event. something more then an ordinary news story.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Certainly not routine news. Largest escape/release of animals like this ever.  Aren't some of those animals endangered species that they decided they had to kill?   D r e a m Focus  21:24, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is the type of article that is really useful for Wikipedia. It is not normal run of the mill news such a house fire or a traffic jam, but rather an event that people will look back years from now as an unusual and freakish accident. It's documentation of these types of articles that make Wikipedia so facinating.Deathawk (talk) 21:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Are you serious? This was a little blurb in the news. The animals got loose, they were captured, end of story. Unless one of the lions went on to eat someone interesting, this really doesn't go beyond WP:NOTNEWS. Trusilver  21:41, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * CommentYou have displayed your lack of credibility. If you had read the article, or any of the news stories cited, you would know that the animals were killed, including many bengal tigers, an endangered species. Only7 out of 56 exotic animals were captured. Edison (talk) 04:06, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep On the basis of coverage such as this, it looks like the coverage is fairly in depth. Mark Arsten (talk) 22:30, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I sure someone out there can muster up a good article in a month or so.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SNOW and this even came up in class on Wednesday! --131.123.123.124 (talk) 15:00, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge, as Muskingum County Animal Farm is independently notable, thanks to the owner's appearances on TV, and providing animals to photoshoots with supermodels. The escape is notable, but can be adequately covered at the other article. --  Zanimum (talk) 16:37, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - There has been significant coverage; the incident sparked reactions from the American Humane Society; the incident sparked calls on Ohio to revamp weak laws. This is notable.  Thank you.   (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:02, 21 October 2011 (UTC))
 * Keep A notable fact, the news has been reported by newspapers also in Italy.User:Lucifero4
 * Keep 1) This is exactly the sort of event people will remember in 30 years. 2) If I do the math correctly, over 1% of all Bengal Tigers in the world have been wiped out in this one incident.  Certainly noteworthy from a conservation standpoint.  3) There is talk of legal reform in Ohio based on this incident.    Heavenlyblue (talk) 23:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Changing to keep based on the conservation effects and fact that laws will be enacted/changed on account of this. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:13, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Notable in that it may lead to changes in the law about the keeping of exotic animals by private citizens. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 06:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge to Zanesville, Ohio, where this event is covered in perfectly sufficient detail, or to Muskingum County Animal Farm. The event is indisputably notable, but that doesn't necessarily mean it needs its own article; we certainly don't need the same (or very similar) content in three separate articles when one will suffice. Robofish (talk) 16:28, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge - It may be notable, but it's never going to be more than a stub. I think it would be better to make it a section in the Muskingum County Animal Farm (which is also not likely to be more than a stub without this), and make one start class article instead of two stubs. Don Lammers (talk) 17:10, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge with Zanesville, Ohio for now, per Robofish. --Ixfd64 (talk) 08:43, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep per WP:SNOW. CallawayRox (talk) 16:48, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep and snow. Carrite (talk) 01:01, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.