Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2011 failed Gothenburg terrorist attack


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I read the ANI discussion and whatever WP:CANVASS violation that may have occurred has likely bee completely countered by the outside attention. Roughly, there's just under 2:1 in favor of deletion (and almost as many "note to closing admin" comments); WP:NOTNEWS/WP:ONEEVENT is the ultimate outcome... &mdash; Scientizzle 14:57, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

2011 failed Gothenburg terrorist attack

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clearly WP:NOTNEWS. no one killed even injured. Evacuations and arrests happen all the time. LibStar (talk) 12:40, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - It doesn't seems especially noteworthy. A line in a list of failed terrorist attempts perhaps. Off2riorob (talk) 12:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Noteworthy by Al-qaida link.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep investigation underway by Swedish police and SÄPO. No way to know how this will turn out. Got press outside sweden in major publications/news sites. Libstar is also wrong about the notion that evacuations and arrestes happen all the time, atleast not evacuations were the police have suspicion of attempted terrorist attacks in Sweden. They are all under arrest on the higher level of suspicion too. Anyhow I say keep.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:35, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to note that Libstar didnt send me a notification of this AfD as is expected. Just for future reference.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * you found this AfD in about 1 hour of it being created. LibStar (talk) 07:35, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * By chance.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would have been good if you received a notification, but no, the absence of notification has no bearing on the article's notability. Tomas e (talk) 18:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a news agency. Not a noteworhty event. - DonCalo (talk) 14:37, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is built on news. we even have an ITN section.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Also notable per Al-qaida link.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That link is speculation. /Julle (talk) 21:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait, no. That's not even speculation, that's just plain wrong. They are rumoured to have links to al-Shabaab, a political fraction in Somalia (with links to al-Qaida, though I don't see why that would be considered that important in 2011, when al-Shabaab is a probably much stronger force than al-Qaida). /Julle (talk) 22:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS: no indication this will have any lasting coverage or effect. If it turns out to after all, there's always re-creation. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 15:24, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The men has been described as three men from Somalia and one from Iraq with links to Al-qaida. And it has recieved lasting coverage not dying out in a day or two. And how can we even have an indication fo lasting coverage after 2 days? If that is the premise we go after then it has recieved lasting coverage by mention in most national and international news sources since.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:23, 13 September 2011
 * Also notable per Al-qaida link.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:39, 13 September 2011 (UTC) (UTC)
 * Looking through the sources of the article I can find CBS reporting that one tabloid, Expressen, known as one of the least reputable news sources in the country, says that anonymous sources suspect that they have links to al-Shabab, which in turn have links to al-Qaida. Taking that information and saying "they have links to al-Qaida!" is not a way to build a dependable encyclopedia. /Julle (talk) 22:00, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 18:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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 * Now investigators think that the men have links to an Al-qaida group. So I wouldnt call this yet another failed terrorist attack. Had it been in Iraq or similar were these kind of attacks happen quite frequently I would have agreed but when it almost happened in Sweden I think it is notable. And in the closeness to the September 11 attacks 10 year anniversary in the US you can wonder if the attacks was planned to bring news for al-qaida and disturb the anniversary by bombing Sweden a country with little terrorist security and an easy target for Al-qaida.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Investigators haven't said so officially, no. What the tabloids write isn't necessarily true. And al-Shabaab isn't "an al-Qaida group". They are a political group in Somalia – bigger, stronger, and probably have more blood on their hands than al-Qaida. Leave al-Qaida out of this and, if you necessarily want to argue the point, say that the men (and it hasn't even been proven that this is something the investigators agree on) are suspected of having links to al-Shabaab. /Julle (talk) 00:55, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - It doesn't seems especially noteworthy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.133.72 (talk) 16:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * single purpose account, with no real reason for deletion.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:23, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Doesn't looks like a single-purpose account at all; it has four edits on completely unrelated info. Blue Crest (talk) 18:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete/merge: the entry on the current events portal can stay, but i agree that this probably doesn't warrant an article of its own. Is there a Crime/Terrorism in Sweden article? Maybe put a sentence about it in there. Michaelmas1957 (talk) 17:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd argue this wouldn't warrant mentioning in a "Crime in Sweden" article. /Julle (talk) 21:46, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep per this line: investigation underway by Swedish police and SÄPO. No way to know how this will turn out. Got press outside sweden in major publications/news sites. The article is not great but it seems to be notable enough to be kept. Jivesh boodhun (talk / Make sure you give 4 a try!!!) 17:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin this !vote was canvassed. . LibStar (talk) 07:32, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps its time to check trough what canvassing is. Because you seem to not fully understand it. Just a suggestion. It is a difference between canvassing and notifying.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "We don't know how this will turn out" is no argument for notability, but rather for not having an article at all on this specific subject. See WP:CRYSTAL. Tomas e (talk) 18:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But it is a valid argument. The main distinction between "routine" (non-notable) and "non-routine" news coverage is to check to consider what would happen after an event. This appears to be non-routine news coverage - And it doesn't violate Crystal ball to think "gosh, what could be the result of this event?" - We use that thought process all the time when we consider notability of a news event. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

— 173.241.225.163 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep due to widespread media coverage, i.e. "notable" as covered in "multiple" "reliable sources". --173.241.225.163 (talk) 17:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - nothing to indicate that it is notable. Tomas e (talk) 18:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep - Suspected link to an infamous terror cell, potential for hundreds of deaths, lots of coverage... seems comparable to the Christmas Day bombing attempt. Obviously more information needs to be added about the plans and event as the investigation reveals more information. Blue Crest (talk) 18:43, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping. "potential for hundreds of deaths", every plane that takes off has potential for hundreds of deaths. LibStar (talk) 23:56, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Talk about trying to "canvass" an opinion?--BabbaQ (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * does not fit the definition of WP:CANVASS, suggest you read it. LibStar (talk) 00:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Question I'm sure there's a good explanation, but can I ask what the link is between this AfD and the numerous editors that User:BabbaQ posted on the talk page of, asking them to participate in it?--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:59, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I generally don't want to delete articles because of the quality, but this has no substance what so ever. Latest news (and I'm sorry if you can't read Swedish, but all the best and the best updated sources will be in Swedish when we're talking Swedish criminal cases) is that they won't even be prosecuted as terrorists but for "förberedelse till mord", conspiracy to murder. The law doesn't recognize them as terrorists. There's some speculation that their target was Swedish artist Lars Vilks. If so I'd say we could add a sentence or two about the case in the article on him – but later, when we have the facts! /Julle (talk) 22:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep – Per reliable sources already in the article that establish notability of the topic. Northamerica1000 (talk) 09:46, 14 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep for now Ongoing investigation of an event that is notable, there is no WP:DEADLINE for deletion here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:34, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
 * how is the event notable as per WP:EVENT. seems rather routine terrorist arrest to me. LibStar (talk) 00:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Talk about trying to "canvass" an opinion?--BabbaQ (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * does not fit the definition of WP:CANVASS, suggest you read it. LibStar (talk) 00:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Events can be a catalyst/trigger for something else. According to this ariticle here from the Huffington Post, it is reporting that after this event the Swedish government is throwing more tax payer money in to anti- terrorist measures. That result makes this event notable. --Ryan.germany (talk) 07:22, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No direct connection, so that claim has no relevance whatsoever to establishing the article's relevance. The autumn session of the Swedish parliament opened this week, and its main focus is the 2012 budget. It is customary to announce various upcoming measures over the week or two leading up to the release of the full budget proposal, different ministries on different days, to give several different ministers a chance to be in the news. Tomas e (talk) 13:48, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin this !vote was canvassed given that Ryan.germany !votes keep at almost every AfD. . LibStar (talk) 07:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note to closing Admin Please check my voting record, I have not voted in any AfDs since this accusation. I have voted in 30 AfDs. I have voted 13 Keep, 14 Delete, 1 Merge/delete and 2 Redirect. Please put LibStar on notice for false accusations and harassment as he spreading this false statement on multiple pages "this !vote was canvassed given that Ryan.germany !votes keep at almost every AfD." about me. --Ryan.germany (talk) 09:31, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You call it canvassing, I call it notifying. Which is perfectly acceptable according to Wikipedia guidelines--BabbaQ (talk) 19:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC).


 * Note to closing admin Ryan.Germany accompanies its votes with arguments and sources. LibStar votes Delete at almost every AfD typically with the "Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions" WP:AADD of "Just pointing at a policy or guideline" WP:JUSTAPOLICY. --Ryan.germany (talk) 08:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't ever respond to canvassing by other editors. see WP:CANVASS. my edit history shows no responding to canvassing ever. LibStar (talk) 08:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting. However, I was not responding to the canvassing accusation. I was commenting on your voting history (you often vote "Delete") and on your style of arguments (typically WP:JUSTAPOLICY or WP:GOOGLEHITS, which are considered "not good arguments" WP:AADD). Every Wikipedia article comes downs to sources, sources, sources. Challenge the sources. If the sources don't hold up, there is nothing else to worry about. --Ryan.germany (talk) 09:13, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * how did you know to come to this AfD? LibStar (talk) 09:21, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * @LibStar - I came across very good advice on a user talk page that I would like to quote "Comments are welcome, but if you've come here because you've been following me around at AfDs, I suggest you desist and WP:CHILL. I will not respond to comments from wikihounders. otherwise feel free to make constructive comments." It doesn't get any simpler than that. It is interesting to note that you voted on an AfD page, where I too voted on, just 6 minutes after I place my comment here. Wikihounding? --Ryan.germany (talk) 09:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * clearly WP:NOTNEWS is not a question of sources, it's question of policy. otherwise WP would have articles on every event that got reported (which is what BabbaQ is hinting at). LibStar (talk) 09:22, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Note to closing admin -- It's kind of hard to tell from the above discussion, but it seems as though User:BabbaQ has been canvassing editors who !vote keep to come to this AfD. So far, the user has refused to acknowledge this and has removed the questions about this behavior from his talk page.--Yaksar (let's chat) 18:16, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The first line in the Canvassing page states: In general, it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, and that is all that I have done. Then if some users that usually like 90% of the times !votes delete disagrees with that doesnt make it canvassing. I simply notified users of this AfD mark the word "notified" not telling them in anyway how to !vote or my own opinion in the matter, I personally dont think I have the powers to make someone change their mind or similar. Could it potentially be that these users are smart enough to come up with their own decision? Just imagine.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:36, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if you're trying to avoid the question or what, but no one was saying your message wasn't neutrally worded. But you posted it to a bunch of editors who had no connection to this article outside of the fact that the voted keep in past AfDs! That is canvassing, plain and simple, and is not acceptable.--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * agree with Yaksar, from WP:CANVASS "Vote-stacking: Posting messages to users selected based on their known opinions". LibStar (talk) 00:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Note to closing admin -- In my opinion it seems like some users here keeps bringing the alleged canvassing situation up more because they are just angry that it has been many independently made Keep !votes while them themselves !voted delete and are of an delete opinion. I dont think these "canvassing accusations" would have been made had a majority been in favour of delete. Which I find disturbing. These users !voted keep by looking at the article and making their own personal decisions in a in my opinion clear cut Keep case, lets face it!. That is my last comment to this situation, I dont want to disrespect all those keep !voters intelligence.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe it has something to do with the fact that yo seem to be willing to break the rules to get what you want: Sockpuppet investigations/BabbaQ/Archive. - DonCalo (talk) 21:37, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep for now This is the first War on Terror conflicting to Sweden. If not, this article must merge to Wikinews. Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 23:27, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you mean by "War on Terror conflicting", but I very much doubt you'd find a good definition that both covers this event and makes it the first. See 2010 Stockholm bombings. /Julle (talk) 16:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - by itself not a major event, but if more events later develop, could be part of an article called Terrorism in Sweden or something. Kansan (talk) 02:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Sourced and currenly open-ended. (This !vote was not canvassed.) Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * being sourced is not a reason for keeping. otherwise we'd create articles for every event reported in the media. LibStar (talk) 02:50, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you've made your opinion about the article abundantly clear, so there's no real need to respond to every !vote and comment. Let other folks express their opinions, yours will be given due weight even without the repetition. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:13, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Like BabbaQ responding to every delete vote with the comment that an alleged Al Qaida link automatically makes something notable? VanIsaacWScontribs 03:53, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Both editors should stop repetitions remarks. It's true that AfD should be a conversation and not a vote, but (cf. Monty Python's Argument Clinic, simply repeating the same thing over and over doesn't make a discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep An attempted terrorist attack in a country with little history of such acts is extremely likely to have enduring notability, as this article passes the regular notability guidelines, that should be enough to keep the article. If the entire world forgets about this in a few months, perhaps deletion should be revisited, but again, it seems likely this will continue to receive attention. Monty  845  03:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "extremely likely to have enduring notability" is purely speculation and WP:CRYSTALballing. LibStar (talk) 03:07, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * While it may be WP:CRYSTAL, everyone arguing that this is WP:NOTNEWS and or WP:EVENT is doing the same thing. We shouldn't delete an article that passes WP:N on speculation that it will not have enduring notability, especially in a case where the nature of the subject make it likely it will receive prolonged attention. Monty  845  14:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Sources are from the period of this event, no demonstration of enduring historical significance so as per WP:NOTNEWS policy this should be deleted. Mt  king  (edits)  06:02, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and ban user - The event is not notable enough to have its own article. The user should also be banned for his disruptive behaviour detailed in the ongoing ANI discussions surrounding him. Colofac (talk) 06:26, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. (ecx2) Clearly falls under WP:NOTNEWSPAPER.  Everything that Al-qaida touches does not make that item notable on its own.  If someone really believes that this should be kept, then it should be moved to the section of the Al-qaida article on failed projects. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:29, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Except, yet again, and I do apologize if I'm repeating myself, but I feel this is an important point: al-Shabaab shouldn't be described as "an al-Qaida group". The article should be enough to explain why. (That if such a connection would be established, of course. The conenction to al-Shabaab is what a Sweidsh tabloid reported that anonymous sources claim the investigators are suspecting. Surely, that is not a way to build a dependable encyclopedia?) That has, to me, absolutely nothing to do with whether this article is relevant or not. Al-Qaida is not the only important terrorist organization, or militant Islamic fraction, in the world. Al-Shabaab is probably more important today. /Julle (talk) 16:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete: No substance and not noteworthy. This story rated brief mention in the international press for one day, and has generated no follow-up commentary or analysis. Might be worth mentioning tersely on a list of foiled terrorist attacks, but certainly not substantial enough for its own article by a longshot. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 06:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:EVENT. JohnCD (talk) 09:17, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTNEWS. In the highly unlikely scenario that some detail of this event has lasting impact, a DRV may then be appropriate. DeliciousBits (talk) 09:28, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete not even minor news - there have been thousands of such evacutations across the globe, and they are not "notable" for Wikipedia. I suppose someone might make a comprehensive list of all such, but it would be longer than the old British monarchy descendents page used to be . Cheers. Collect (talk) 12:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete - no sign that this has any enduring coverage to make up for WP:NOTNEWS. Yaksar (let's chat) 14:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. Chillllls (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. This is run-of-the-mill news involving run-of-the-mill policework stopping a run-of-the-mill crime.  Nothing here gives any evidence that this event will have a lasting significance beyond any other random event from news cycle.  -- Jayron  32  19:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment if this must be deleted, then it should be merged to Wikinews, it's better way about the up to date information conflicting terrorism. Wikipedia has guidelines for WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:EVENT topics so we can't put the up to date information there. Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 21:12, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There are licensing reasons why it can't be transferred to Wikinews - see Template messages/Sister projects. The author would have to input it there directly (which is where it should have been in the first place). JohnCD (talk) 21:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Ridiculous nomination. Anyone doing research into terrorism in Europe will find the topic of this article notable.  Deterence  Talk 23:01, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment This is the first Swedish Islamist terrorist incident ever in Europe's history, must merge to Wikinews or the result will be no consenus. Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 00:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not the case, as JohnCD says above, merge to Wikinews is NOT possible and as WP:NOT is policy (ie not a guideline) those advocating keep have to show enduring significance and as no refs outside the 48 hrs of the event have been provided this has not happened. Mt  king  (edits)  00:30, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This failed terrorist attempt did not highly happen as 9/11 attacks in the US, and its not an important story. Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 01:55, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * As I've already explained above, no, it's not. See 2010 Stockholm bombings. /Julle (talk) 03:41, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list. Where Have I read that around here?  Seriously, did any of you citing NOTNEWS (now depreciated in favor of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER actually read what it says: For example, routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia.  This is not a routine announcement or a football score.  This is a major news story, and the coverage definitely qualifies as "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Buddy431 (talk) 05:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I only note that the word "enduring" is in that section. You may want to address the enduring nature of this event by showing how it has endured.  Some sources which show its endurance would be useful to changing votes.  -- Jayron  32  05:13, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Also have a read of Articles for deletion/2010 Barack Obama visit to India and Articles for deletion/Barack Obama's visit to India his visit revived far more coverage than this event, but like this event the coverage stopped when the event stopped, in both cases there is no evidence of any enduring notability. Mt  king  (edits)  05:26, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that's a fair comparison, to be honest. On English Wikipedia we are mainly working with English sources. Barack Obama is the president of the most populous English-speaking country, so of course, what he does far more easily gets covered by big media in English, compared to what happens in Sweden. However, from a global point of view, if we're going to look at (English) media attention as a criterion for relevance, then that will seriously unbalance how we judge relevance in the US compared to Russia, Canada compared to China, Britain compared to Algeria and so on. (And if we, on the other hand, would turn to Swedish-language media, then of course this got more coverage.) /Julle (talk) 06:28, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It was about the need to show more than news coverage at the time, so to avoid falling foul of the WP:NOTNEWSPAPER policy there is a need it to show enduring notability of the event by showing coverage after the time frame of the event. Mt  king  (edits)  11:00, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - This is the true threat to the Wikipedia, editors who wish to turn us away from an encyclopedia and into an arm of Google News. Editors who approach article-writing with the mindset of "X number of mentions in sources == article creation".  WP:NOTNEWS to a T. Tarc (talk) 13:04, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * No. Editors who whimsically delete informative content are the true threat to Wikiledia.  Deterence  Talk 13:43, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Those who have called for deletion have actually given reasons grounded in project policy or guideline, so that quite handily punctures your "whimsical" claim. If we really wish ti speak of whimsy, Your point of view rests squarely in the "it's useful" realm of fantasy. Tarc (talk) 13:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You know you're out of touch with the big-picture purpose of Wikipedia - it's an encyclopedia! - when you think an article's usefulness in providing informative content lies in the "realm of fantasy".  Deterence  Talk 14:28, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * An encyclopedia covers what is notable, what is important. Not every scrap of every event that happens in a day.  When you can learn to differentiate between the mundane and the newsworthy, you'll be a better editor. Tarc (talk) 19:19, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The article provides useful information to anyone doing research on terrorism in Europe. The article does no harm. I am at a loss as to why so many people are hell-bent on censoring this information.  Deterence  Talk 21:57, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * See WP:ITSUSEFUL and WP:NOHARM. People are not "hell-bent on censoring" anything - they want to stick to WP:NOT in order to keep Wikipedia from wandering off its core mission as an encyclopedia. JohnCD (talk) 22:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ironically, my reasons for voting to Keep this article are entirely consistent with WP:ITSUSEFUL (I have provided reasons) and WP:NOHARM. Perhaps you could have another look at those policies. Further more, your link to WP:NOT doesn't actually say anything. The fact remains, this is an encyclopedic article that provides referenced informative content for anyone doing research on terrorism in Europe/Sweden. Deleting this content will do Wikipedia, and the readers of Wikipedia, a disservice.  Deterence  Talk 23:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What's the biggest point between War on Terror and Sweden, but the 2010 Stockholm bombings was an incident. Mohamed Aden Ighe (talk) 15:50, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem here is that there's practically nothing to base it on. Four men have been arrested. That's pretty much what we know for certain. The rest is rumours and speculation. /Julle (talk) 05:40, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Generally, I disagree with Tarc every time he opens his mouth, but I agree with him on this. There is the constant issue with editors of niche subjects that feel that every little blip in the media that involves their niche demands a new article be written about it. This is not the purpose of Wikipedia. Period. Trusilver  06:14, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Obviously... without a doubt. This article is about a total non-incident and fails WP:NOTNEWS utterly. This reminds me of the aviation wikiproject and how its members want to make an article every time a plane hits an especially hard bump on the runway. Trusilver  17:09, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Also odd to me that none of the news links are local to the event. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:12, 18 September 2011 (UTC)


 * For the poor administrator who has to read through all this -- I can't see any link to it above, so just in case the ANI discussion about the canvassing that occurred is here.--Yaksar (let's chat) 20:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Now found at Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive720. &mdash; Scientizzle 14:57, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * weak keep I suspect we'll be hearing a fair bit more about this and will be notable. We have enough coverage that has been sustained over the last few days that I imagine this will overcome WP:EVENT.  Does it now?  That's a hard call. Certainly there was coverage as recently as 4 hours ago . I generally !vote to keep if I'm darn certain it will continue to have sustained coverage.  I'm not darn certain, but I'd take an even up bet that it will be.  So weak keep. Hobit (talk) 04:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS: no indication this will have any lasting coverage or effect. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 13:46, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


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