Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012–13 United States network television schedule (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 21:12, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

2012–13 United States network television schedule
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Page was deleted this past October and has been recreated by the person who originally created it a month ago. It's too early to have such page. While we're at it, why not have a "2013–14 United States network television schedule" article also? Farine (talk) 05:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * See Talk:2011–12 United States network television schedule. 68.44.179.54 (talk) 14:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just because there was a violation of WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTALBALL last year, does not make it an excuse to repeat the violation this year.Farine (talk) 16:13, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Please don't delete! I don't care about the violations!  I think we should keep the article!  The 2011-12 article was created at this time last year, so this should STAY!!!!!!!!!! 68.44.179.54 (talk) 21:04, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2011 November 26.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  20:13, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The article can be re-created in the spring of 2012, when the actual schedule is known. Of the actual information in this article, a significant percentage consists of a list of shows that will not be broadcast in 2012-13 (such as Charlie's Angels and How to Be a Gentleman). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:18, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. We have no way of knowing which shows will air next fall. The networks don't know. --NellieBly (talk) 02:02, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt Both again, TOOSOON & CRYSTAL. Most of the pilots from the networks haven't even been approved beyond preliminary stages where nobody has been hired except writers, and I don't care what IP's decided when it came to creating the page, because a known editor makes that final choice. Please, this article doesn't need anything in it until early April at the earliest, so I highly suggest a salting as this is going to be recreated in the same form in two weeks with the same lack of information.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, delete and again delete. Administrators, make sure that this article does not ever get recreated again before June 2012. BTW, did I said that I was for delete. Farine (talk) 21:13, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment To be fair, network schedules are set by mid-May and 80% of the pilots are announced as firm go's by mid-April, which is why I asked for a salt until April. June would be way too restrictive. Also, your delete rationale was already expressed properly in the nom statement; you don't need to cast a separate vote below it.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 23:13, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * April is fine, though May would be even better. BTW, how long will this AFD keep going on? Everybody wants the article deleted. So I don't see where the "debate" is .Farine (talk) 02:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * An AfD goes for seven days. There is no clear "speedy delete" rationale, so that is fair and par for the course for these discussions.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 03:03, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment and suggestion. However we are starting to hear of shows that are getting renewals for next season - see Zap2It's Renew/Cancel Index website, for example. But since this is about a schedule I agree it's a few months too premature. Suggestion: why not on a temporary basis simply add a 2012-2013 section to the 2011-2012 schedule article detailing what has been confirmed, etc. up to this point, and then transfer that material to a full article once it's warranted? 68.146.80.110 (talk) 15:40, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The idea is not bad. However, knowing some of the editors on Wikipedia, it wouldn't take long that this 2012-2013 section overflows and starts looking like a disguised article nested on the 2011-2012 article. That's why it would be best to forget altogether about the 2012-2013 programming whether it's on its own article or through a section of another article. But that's just my opinion.


 * As for the shows that are being renewed, the information can be treated at the moment in the respective articles of theses shows. Regards Farine (talk) 16:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 14:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as lacking in-depth coverage by independent third party sources. If such sources are added to the article, feel free to ping my talk page. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete Unsourced speculation goes against WP:CRYSTAL and even the networks don't know what shows will air next year. This can be recreated next April, but until then, please make sure this stays a redlink. Cutecutecuteface2000 (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.