Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012–2013 United States network television schedule (weekday)


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The result was   delete. Courcelles 03:10, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

2012–2013 United States network television schedule (weekday)

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Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. This article about a television season more than one year in the future can only be considered conjecture at best at this point. Despite some references indicating that some shows have been renewed for multiple year contracts, there is no guarantee those shows will continue to be shown in the same time slots, or that the given networks will even exist 14 - 30 months from now. (An unlikely scenario, true, but since the future is unpredictable, we should take some care in writing about it.) WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:15, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment - Article seems to be created by a very new editor, so he may just need some help. If it was a list with the weather for next year, then I would agree with the "WP is not a crystal ball" objection. But TV stations can and do announce planned shows well in advance, so as long as it uses sources this article has merit, and it can be updated whenever TV stations announce changes to their planned schedules. Are there any similar list articles already? MakeSense64 (talk) 14:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I agree that this will be useful information, and the page is well-done. However an encyclopedia is supposed to be for articles about topics of lasting interest. This is really a primary source, not an article. It is of interest mainly right now until the season it over. After that it will be an historical curiousity, just like a 1971 TV schedule would be today. Perhaps fun to check out and useful to a person studying the history of TV, but not what belongs in an encyclopedia. There must be other websites that store this information for interested researchers. Besides that if we keep this one we should have one for every nation and every year since TV started. Wolfview (talk) 15:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete No, way WP:TOOSOON. It is completely likely that ABC's new daytime schedule for 2011-12 could completely flop, for instance, and ABC has made no announcements as to where Katie Couric will go in non O&O markets, and MakeSense, they never put out schedules this early at all. Until May 2012 when it actually is announced this must remain a redlink.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 16:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 19:27, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - per WP:crystal ball.  Perhaps some of the information could be moved into individual articles on specific networks (NBC, Fox, etc) in some sort of "future plans" section in those articles. --Noleander (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Not so far ahead as to make the information crystal ball. People do write about television that far in advance.    DGG ( talk ) 23:58, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment People write speculatively about television that far in advance. In the same way that Wikipedia discourages writing about upcoming films until principal photography is underway because of the likelihood that a film project may fail, it is unwise to write about television schedules so far in advance given the fluid nature of television programming.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, WP:TOOSOON, WP:RS, and WP:OR. Even if the cited sources were completely reliable predictors of events over a year in the future, they still would not suffice to substantiate this collection of data.   Rich wales (talk · contribs) 05:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as per WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. Also, article was created by a suspected sock puppet of William313 who was blocked for vandalism. Farine (talk) 01:26, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.