Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 06:34, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team

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 * The find sources function above is unreliable for seasonal articles as it searches for "2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team" as one single term because it is in quotation marks. If you search "Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team" and "2012", it returns more than seven times as many results.  Going further, if you search "Butler Bulldogs" "Women's soccer" "2012", it returns more than 660 times as many results.  Both of those examples provide pertinent results for the article at hand while still excluding wikipedia as a possible source. City boy77 (talk) 03:46, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The find sources function above is unreliable for seasonal articles as it searches for "2012 Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team" as one single term because it is in quotation marks. If you search "Butler Bulldogs women's soccer team" and "2012", it returns more than seven times as many results.  Going further, if you search "Butler Bulldogs" "Women's soccer" "2012", it returns more than 660 times as many results.  Both of those examples provide pertinent results for the article at hand while still excluding wikipedia as a possible source. City boy77 (talk) 03:46, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Non-notable sports season. No independent refs that mention this team. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The article follows the same conventions as many other collegiate sports articles for individual seasons. Since Stuartyeates pointed out the shortcomings of the article, I provided many more citations that are not published by Butler.  The sources provide both verifiability and neutrality.  City boy77 (talk) 03:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I acknowledge that there are now sources. The problem is that each of the games is now sourced to a non-independent source---namely their opponent. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:00, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 03:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment. What is our policy with regards to the notability of sports event? I am seeing a lot of such articles on Wikipedia, and the coverage is rarely in mainstream, reliable sources. This is indeed a problem worth wider discussion. (Please ping me if any comments are left for me) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The policy is at WP:NSEASONS, User:Piotrus. Stuartyeates (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - non-notable sports season, fails WP:NSEASONS and WP:GNG. GiantSnowman 09:50, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:59, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Changed to keep, because it's well-referenced and the two delete votes only amount to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. I still think a merge would also be an acceptable outcome. Clavdia chauchat (talk) 21:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
 *  Comment Keep - WP:NSEASONS provides that "In cases where the individual [college] season notability is insufficient for an article, multiple seasons may be grouped together in a single article. This grouping might be based on head coaches, conference affiliation, or any other reasonable standard that results in sufficient coverage for the period to warrant an article." I'm not saying I do think this season falls short, but if others think it does perhaps we could merge it and the 2013 article into something like Butler Bulldogs in Atlantic 10 women's soccer? Clavdia chauchat (talk) 18:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's not a case of don't like it at all. It's to do with the fact that there is nothing in the article that fulfills the requirements for college articles in WP:NSEASONS. Additionally, although sourced, the sources are just to WP:ROUTINE reports on various college sites detailing match reports. There is no evidence that this season has received any notable coverage outside of the usual basic match reporting. Fenix down (talk) 11:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - Passes WP:GNG and provides season-specific information for Butler Bulldogs women's soccer. Hmlarson (talk) 22:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - per GS, notion that club passes GNG is untrue as though a wide section of refs are provided, these are no more that routine match reports. Not a national championship season, no indication that this is anything other than your usual bog-standard reasonable season performance. Can't really see what merging seasons would achieve, there is nothing I can see to indicate that they have done anything in particular of significance in that conference to date. Fenix down (talk) 12:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:04, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 22:06, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete—Fails every single aspect of WP:NSEASONS and all coverage of this particular season is WP:ROUTINE. Article is 10% prose and 90% statistics, which is specifically what NSEASONS warns against. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Livitup  (talk • contribs) 14:04, 17 September 2013‎
 * Delete Fails WP:NSEASONS and WP:GNG with only routine sports coverage.204.126.132.231 (talk) 19:40, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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