Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012 Oakland school shooting


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was '''WP:IAR closure; events in progress are difficult to judge for long-term notability (per WP:EVENT). Additionally, clear consensus that its too soon to delete. Instead of taking this to WP:DRV, please consider waiting at least 10 days. tedder (talk) 02:07, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

2012 Oakland school shooting

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clearly WP:NOTNEWS. we don't report every fatal shooting in WP, there are thousands of these are year. nor is saying it's going to have future notability or more deaths as per WP:CRYSTAL LibStar (talk) 23:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Opposed The reasoning of LibStar is severly flawed. Even though there might be thousands of shootings all over the world every year, mass shootings at universities are extremely rare and therefore get a lot of news coverage and media attention. How this incident should be any less notable than e.g. the University of Iowa shooting, the Northern Illinois University shooting or the 2010 University of Alabama in Huntsville shooting, which all have a comparable number of victims, or why anybody would think this one will fade away into historical oblivion, even though the aforementioned did not, eludes me. (Lord Gøn (talk) 00:06, 3 April 2012 (UTC))
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a reason for keeping. shootings need long term notability as per WP:EVENT not a spike in coverage because it happened yesterday. some shootings are indeed notable but it is too early to tell with this one. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:56, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
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Keep The article should include a link here, and be renamed 2012 Oikos University shooting as entitled in current media outlets. Stubbleboy 00:27, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * no reason is supplied for keeping. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep: Perhaps when first nominated, lo about 100 minutes ago, its notability was not clear, but the passage of time makes clear it meets WP:GNG or will before the AfD is closed.  Seven already dead.  See Articles for deletion/2011 Virginia Tech shooting (same day shooting AfD).--Milowent • hasspoken  01:30, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Snow Keep- For now. Renominate if N is not clearly met, which I think unlikely. Dru of Id (talk) 01:59, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.