Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013–14 Veria F.C. season


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. § FreeRangeFrog croak 02:44, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

2013–14 Veria F.C. season

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Violates WP:NOTSTATS. "To provide encyclopedic value, data should be put in context with explanations referenced to independent sources." No attempt at sourced prose. Article only encourages similar unsourced repositories. C679 04:49, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I am also nominating the following page under the same rationale:

C679 04:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete both - both would be notable is overhauled, but in their current state they are not and nobody seems willing/able to solve the many problems. Better to delete and re-start from scratch in due course. GiantSnowman 08:17, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd love to fix the problems over here, could you mention them to me and I'd be glad to try fixing them Panos 12:02, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:53, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. C679 14:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a typical season article for a top-tier professional club. It might need a bit of prose, but I'm not really seeing a lot of difference when looking at current seasons of other teams such as 2013–14 Liverpool F.C. season and 2013–14 Swansea City A.F.C. season. There is recent work on the article and User:PanosBonJov has expressed a willingness to fix article. Nfitz (talk) 00:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is a record for a club playing in a top professional league as required by WP:NSEASONS, see no reason why sourced prose cannot be added. Agree with Nfitz that the state of the article is nearly identical to that of many others. Needs improving, but no reason whatsoever given current consensus to consider this as a non-notable subject. Fenix down (talk) 10:55, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't know what "current consensus" you refer to, but I do know that WP:NSEASONS asserts that "Team season articles should consist mainly of well-sourced prose, not just statistics and lists of players. Wikipedia is not a stats directory" which clearly indicates that the articles in their current state are specifically outside of the scope of the guideline. GNG isn't claimed to be met either, so there don't appear to be any remaining arguments to keep the article. C679 20:02, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:56, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:04, 2 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep The article was a bit of a mess to begin with, but AfD is not for cleanup. These year articles are part of a bigger scheme too.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:48, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - certainly needs the addition of 'well-sourced prose' but articles on notable subjects should be not be deleted for lack of sources within the page only if such sources can be shown not to exist. The way forward is to tag the page for improvement and encourage expansion. The Whispering Wind (talk) 16:27, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.