Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2013 Tbilisi anti-homophobia rally protests


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 22:49, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

2013 Tbilisi anti-homophobia rally protests

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as per WP:EVENT, and WP:NOTNEWS, mostly worked on in the 2 days following this event. This event had no fatalities and involved no long term change, like law changes etc. LibStar (talk) 23:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep the injuries themselves are not what's of interest, it's the fact that the Orthodox Church incited and participated in the riot and the police reaction. Given most of the coverage will have been in Georgian and perhaps Russian or other foreign languages perhaps the article can be expanded.  But it's definitely something that would not be deleted if it happened in Salt Lake City or Rome. μηδείς (talk) 00:44, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, plenty of secondary source coverage from all over the planet. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 13:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * and all the coverage in the article is within 3 days of the event. LibStar (talk) 11:22, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, Wikipedia is not the news. Stifle (talk) 17:46, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Georgia (country)-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Comment If there is consensus that this should not be its own standalone article, maybe it might make sense to Merge into another article like LGBT rights in Georgia?Theredproject (talk) 03:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, sources indicate notability. (Tip: Anytime someone uses the argument "no laws were changed" in an AFD, you automatically know they are wrong.) Everyking (talk) 23:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
 * please read WP:EVENT and no WP:LASTING effect like a law change, no lasting significance of this event. LibStar (talk) 00:04, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * My point, in case you missed it, is that if you have to resort to claiming a subject has no lasting significance, your argument is ridiculous&mdash;in fact, you are affirming that it is significant, and if it is significant now, well, notability is forever. Everyking (talk) 01:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * read WP:NOTNEWS, it may get a spike in coverage even worldwide, but that doesn't make it a WP article. it must pass WP:EVENT which you have clearly failed to demonstrate. LibStar (talk) 01:50, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * In what sense do you think this article fails NOTNEWS? Everyking (talk) 02:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't even bother, . It is User Libstar who needs to show this article should be deleted.  If he can't, it will simply be kept, as it should be. μηδείς (talk) 02:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

as from the sourcing in the article, it hit the news cycle for 2-3 days then no ongoing coverage to meet WP:LASTING. Whenever Barack Obama visits somewhere there's a huge news spike but we don't create articles for every visit he does. LibStar (talk) 03:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, so let's try to pin this down. Under what circumstances will you change your opinion? If we find a source from four days after the event, will that do? Everyking (talk) 16:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
 * please read WP:PERSISTENCE, Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle. The duration of coverage is a strong indicator of whether an event has passing or lasting significance. LibStar (talk) 02:27, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Will you stop dodging and telling me to read things I've already read? I asked you a question. I want a specific answer. Everyking (talk) 15:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

you don't seem to have read these things, you need evidence of ongoing coverage, or that the event has a long term effect. To date you have proven neither. LibStar (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Answer the question, please. Everyking (talk) 12:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * in the time spent arguing here you could have looked like for evidence of persistent coverage . But I presume you've found nothing. Look forward to a response of some evidence to back your keep case. LibStar (talk) 12:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Why should I look until I know what I need to look for? You won't be specific with me about what sources I could provide that would change your mind. Everyking (talk) 19:27, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep This is a notable event per WP:EVENT, for example, The New Yorker analysis What Was Behind Georgia’s Anti-Gay Rally? attempts to put the event in historical context. --I am One of Many (talk) 06:32, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
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