Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 GoPro Indy Grand Prix of Sonoma


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus defaulting to keep and w/o prejudice to a future renomination. Ad Orientem (talk) 05:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

2014 GoPro Indy Grand Prix of Sonoma

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Notability? All I get when I search for this on Google is some YouTube videos of it, a single press release from GoPro announcing that they sponsored it, and the already cited USA Today article. TheAwesome Hwyh  03:42, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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 * Keep This article is certainly a very low quality stub, but it's a stub that covers a championship round of IndyCar, North America's top-level professional single seater/open wheel racing championship (the series which includes the Indy 500). Unfortunately the guidelines do not appear to specify whether or not individual IndyCar and or F1 races of the professional era are inherently notable (I would assert that they are), but a strong indicator is that any driver who had taken part in this race would themselves be considered notable merely because of the entry in this race (Notability_(sports)).
 * Online sources for  include:  (USA Today);  (Fox News);  The Detroit News;  (Motor Sport Magazine). Other likely source but I can't confirm: Autosport magazine out of the UK covers every IndyCar race so would likely include a race report in that week's print edition. As an American series, I would expect more extensive coverage in US print media too. --kingboyk (talk) 17:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: It might be helpful if WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing were informed about the discussion. Having advocated for keeping this article, I will not notify them myself because it may appear like canvassing. Would the proposer or an unconnected editor please notify that project? --kingboyk (talk) 17:28, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The relevant WikiProject has been notified. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 00:17, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - It needs expansion of the article, not to delete the article. But if we are going to do it, at least maybe redirect it to the 2014 IndyCar Series. HawkAussie (talk) 23:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete No sources seem to exist beyond the single source referenced. Rockphed (talk) 13:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment Sources may exist via the Internet Archive/Wayback Machine. The race is five years old and IndyCar often revamps their website in the offseason, leading to dead links. Like others have said, the race is notable, the article just needs expansion. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep per Kingboyk MWright96 (talk) 17:21, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - routine coverage for such an event WP:ROUTINE - no sustained coverage WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE - no lasting effect WP:LASTING - notability not established - Epinoia (talk) 17:04, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Sustained coverage is not a requirement for an article's existence; if it were, the Madden NFL series would have an article deleted every year to make way for the new game. This was a race in the 2014 IndyCar Series season, the highest level of single-seater racing in North America. Every single race from 2007-2018 has an article, and the only reason the same can't be said for 2019 at the moment is because the project is currently undermanned. In short, IndyCar race reports have established notability in the past. If we're calling notability into question here, then a mass deletion of about 175 other articles is in order, which would be ridiculous and absurd. Low quality stubs, which with the right amount of work can eventually become good and featured articles, are better than nothing. --Bcschneider53 (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - the sources Kingboyk used show coverage of an event for a top tier motorcar league thus demonstrating notability. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 03:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.