Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 ICC World Twenty20


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The result was   delete. Kevin (talk) 05:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

2014 ICC World Twenty20

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Pure speculation that Pakistan will host this event, and very non-neutral. Per WP:CRYSTAL, this should be deleted.  Chzz  ►  23:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions.  —Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 14:07, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete The latest news is that the PCB are interested in hosting the tournament as are Bangladesh. So there's no confirmed host and no other sourced information. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 16:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Pakistan references, Keep the rest unless the tournament itself is no longer notable or isn't going to happen. Doc Quintana (talk) 19:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTALBALL.  GraYoshi2x► talk 23:06, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, but remove the crystalballery. -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 23:35, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * What would be left though? The whole article is based on the premise that Pakistan will host the tournament. All that is sourced and relevant to the article (excl. background info) is a quote from the PCB saying they wish to host the tournament, do you really think that is enough to base an article on? --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 17:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It could be similiar to future elections in countries with a Parliament like the UK. You don't know when it's going to happen, but you know it will happen and it's a noteworthy event even before it's clear when it'll happen. It'd be crystal balling if it wasn't likely to happen. Doc Quintana (talk) 04:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * You're only looking at the bits of wp:crystalball that you want to, it also states "the 2020 U.S. presidential election and 2036 Summer Olympics are not appropriate article topics if nothing can be said about them that is verifiable and not original research" So it doesn't matter if this event is likely to happen because there's no sources. The top line of notability is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and all that can be found is one brief comment, that's not enough. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 09:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you are too, please see my "vote" above. If there's anything that should be in this article, it should be kept and anything else should be deleted. If that means everything, then that means everything. I'm not an expert on the subject, so I can't tell you if there would be enough available out there for this event right now.Doc Quintana (talk) 11:32, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I have seen your vote and to me "unless the tournament itself is no longer notable or isn't going to happen" is based on reading wp:crystalball but only taking out the part you agree with. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 13:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Then we will have to agree to disagree, speculation is the heart of crystalballing, not talking about future facts. Unless it seems unlikely that the tournament will happen, it should be kept, but anything unsourced or speculative should be deleted. If the entire event falls into the latter category, then feel free to construe my opinion as a delete, but it doesn't seem as that is the case and that only the Pakistan related information is crystallball worthy here. Doc Quintana (talk) 14:20, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Clearly we have different interpretations of wp:crystalball, point 1 is clear to me that future topics need well documented coverage or they shouldn't exist. I still don't understand the argument of removing Pakistan related information as the whole article is Pakistan related, so I ask again what would be left? --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we have different interpretation of what this event is. I'm looking at the all time series of these events while I think you're looking at this event in particular. Pakistan is inconsequential to the equation. If it's going to happen and it's notable, that's enough once there's sourceable material. Doc Quintana (talk) 16:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * When this event happens, yes it will be notable, but currently there's no coverage so I don't see how an article can exist. In the same way wp:crystalball says 2020 U.S. presidential election is not an appropriate topic. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 16:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * But the next U.S presidential election is. Again, perhaps it's my misunderstanding of this event. Doc Quintana (talk) 16:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * This isn't the next ICC World Twenty20 though, there's one in 2010 and 2012. Also I haven't done a search but I'm sure there's a lot more coverage of the next U.S presidential election. --Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 17:01, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok never mind then, I thought this was the next edition of this event. my apologies. Doc Quintana (talk) 17:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Until the ICC confirm it and then recreate with sources. The 2012 page isn't much better...  Lugnuts  (talk) 06:42, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
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