Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 Santa Ana kidnapping accusation (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This is a procedural close of no consensus owing to the lack of participation. No prejudice against a renomination. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

2014 Santa Ana kidnapping accusation
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As the creator and principal author of this article, when the story was initially reported I thought this was going to be a major case with persisting and substantial notability. I missed the two previous discussions about deleting it, which were both before a criminal trial was held. Eventually a trial was held and the most serious charges were not sustained – Garcia was found not guilty of kidnapping, and the charge of forcible rape was dismissed. Ultimately, he was only convicted of "lewd acts on a minor" (his wife, with whom he continued to have a 10-year household relationship until the accusation arose). There was no conviction for any sort of violence, and members of the community who knew the couple found the wife's story rather dubious. The entire term of his sentence has now passed by, so he has presumably been released at this point (probably much sooner since it seems likely that the full sentence was not served by incarceration, especially since the conviction was for a non-violent offense). I have found no coverage in sources since the trial and sentencing about five years ago. At this point the whole topic does not seem very notable, as it seems to lack WP:PERSISTENCE. Running off with a 15-year-old and having sex with her (and marrying her and working hard and trying to raise a family) is not something that is normally covered on Wikipedia, and that was the only thing he was convicted of in this case. —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;BarrelProof (talk) 20:51, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per keep votes on Articles for deletion/2014 Santa Ana kidnapping case (2nd nomination) and the first afd and per WP:NOTTEMPORARY if it was notable then, it is notable now. Jeepday (talk) 17:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Please note that both of the previous deletion discussions had no consensus outcomes, not keep outcomes, and part of the justification for not deleting the article at the time was to wait for the results of the trial. As noted above, the trial did not result in a conviction on the most serious of the charges and did not have a very large amount of coverage in reliable sources. After that, the case completely disappeared from public interest (showing a lack of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE). Please also note that the person requesting deletion is clearly the principal author of the article. —&#8288;&#8202;&#8288;BarrelProof (talk) 14:57, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 00:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.