Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2014 The Mall in Columbia shooting


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to The Mall in Columbia. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:59, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

2014 The Mall in Columbia shooting
Do NOT delete this. This is an important event. It has specific relevance to the pattern of unexpected violence and mass murder in the United States. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TeddyPuma (talk • contribs) 18:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC) — User: (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Do NOT delete this. This is an important event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.131.132 (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2014 (UTC) — User: (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Please do not delete this. I agree that this ia an important date in history. We need to be able to categorize all mass shootings to better understand them. These shootings affect other communities with a ripple effect and we may want to extrapolate backwards, too. Merlinaut (talk) 12:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC) — User: (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


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WP:NOTNEWS, just because it is mentioned in RS doesnt make it notable for its own article. Every shooting in the world (or the usa) doesnt warrant its own page. This article has about 6 sentences and not much scope for anything else. Neither is there any lasting notability that it causes some change (as in gun laws, etc). Lihaas (talk) 12:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
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 * Move to Draft to give time for an informed view of whether the event has enduring significance. See Drafts. Thincat (talk) 13:12, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - unfortunately shootings like this are no longer a rare incident in the US. And this one has not recieved alot of attention either.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete - the event is significant to The Mall at Columbia, and the information on the shooting should probably stay there. There isn't enough for a standalone yet, though, and no reason to expect there will be. I disagree that it hasn't gotten a lot of attention, though. It was front-page on The Washington Post almost all of yesterday. Reinana kyuu (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - Though I'm an inclusionist, so I may be biased. Obviously this isn't something on the scale of the Boston bombings or the Westgate mall attack, but it's an act of violence that went viral in the media, receiving significant attention. There will probably be discussions on what could have been done to prevent it, analysis of police response, politicians weighing in, etc., and it might be useful to have a distinct article to organize all that. G0T0 (talk) 15:07, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge; The Mall in Columbia article is stub-sized as it is, so this information will fit well into the existing parent article. (I share the same sadness of other editors that these kinds of violent acts are becoming more and more common.) WikiRedactor (talk) 19:00, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge and Delete - The event is significant to The Mall in Columbia. -- Somedifferentstuff (talk) 19:02, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge to The Mall in Columbia. Shooting can be covered in subsection of that article.  Dough 48  72  19:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge Corn cheese (talk) 21:54, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Currently there is a one line sentence in the article that is fine as it stands. I moved the shooting to the "History" section in the mall's article as it distracts from the mall's overall history (WP:NPOV). The main focus of the The Mall in Columbia article should be the mall its-self and not the shooting. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:13, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * No one said anything about making the main focus of the article the shooting, but it's certainly noteworthy enough to the subject to deserve more than one sentence. I can understand placing it within History, but it should be set off a bit in its own compartment of that at the least. Reinana kyuu (talk) 10:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, as standalone article; This shooting: 1.	Has received much media coverage; 2.	Involved multiple vics (two shot dead, one shot and wounded, and four hurt in the aftermath); and 3.	Was an interracial multiple murder, which may have been racially motivated.
 * Of course, the reasons I gave for keep are the very ones that motivated someone to go AFD. We must try and suppress, or at the least, distort all murders committed by blacks, mustn’t we? If the shooter had been white, and especially, if a white had murdered two blacks, we wouldn’t be having this discussion at all.24.90.190.96 (talk) 01:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Please read WP:NOTNEWS - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:38, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * dunno about the deep insecurity complex. no one knows or cares about the raceLihaas (talk) 23:44, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge Folklore1 (talk) 15:47, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge and delete. Another day, another shooting in the US, nothing notable here. WWGB (talk) 17:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.