Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2015 Semenyih helicopter crash


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The result was redirect to Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin . logically this is where the page should point based on the discussion below. merge in what is appropriate Spartaz Humbug! 21:36, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

2015 Semenyih helicopter crash

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provides no real education value and is duplicated in the Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin article FOX 52 (talk) 04:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
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My understanding is all fatal aviation incidents have an article in Wikipedia. 137.205.171.204 (talk) 17:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Large scale accident(s) yes, but this holds no real notability and should stay in the Eurocopter AS365 Dauphin article - FOX 52 (talk) 22:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Could this not be compared to the 2015 Eglin Air Force Base helicopter crash article or the 2014 Wichita King Air crash article? Both are low-fatality helicopter crashes.Canucklehead Alberta (talk) 01:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete Both those article as well should probably be placed in their respective "Accidents and notable incidents" sub-sections. The bigger problem with your article is lack of references, it only contains two sentences, and seems to fall short of notability for a stand alone article. - FOX 52 (talk) 01:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS, WP:GNG, Just an ordinary non-notable helicopter crah with some minor Malaysian politicians on board. Politicians have such a bad rep these days, they almost exclude themselves from notability automatically, unless they, or the event, are very special.--Petebutt (talk) 05:06, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is systemic bias: we would not delete a US helicopter crash that killed a Cabinet member, an Obama aide and a prominent businessman. But I'm not inclined to correct systemic bias by keeping this article: I'd probably argue, in dissent, for the deletion of the US version too. As for Articles for deletion/2014 Wichita King Air crash, it is a complete farce. Here, as in there, the WP:NOTNEWS argument is correct, and there is no lasting impact per WP:EVENT. As pointed out above, there are adequate alternative pages in which brief material on the accident can be included (Jamaluddin Jarjis being another). --Mkativerata (talk) 11:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - The article does meet current consensus for a stand-alone article insofar as the AS365 is not a "light" helicopter and a Wikinotable person was killed. However, it is light on sources at the moment, which means it is difficult to argue that WP:GNG is met. Death toll of six is not really high enough to argue that an article should stand on that criteria either. Mjroots (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep - Same as above; the WikiNotable person (pretty important in his own regard) is enough for a keep Yny501 (talk) 02:21, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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