Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 AFF Beach Soccer Championship


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

2016 AFF Beach Soccer Championship

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This tournament did not take place. It was meant to take place in August 2016, but was then postponed and still has not taken place. All results and goalscorers are fictional. Mcruic (talk) 16:05, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

*Redirect to AFF Beach Soccer Championship, I can't find much info on this however if it's not happened then it's probably better to just redirect. – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete as per below - I assumed the event was a yearly thing but it's not (last event was 2008) and as this been been postponed everything in the article isn't obviously correct now and there's next to no coverage of the event either so I personally see no point redirecting, Better off deleted. – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete. This is SPORTSPAM. And we need to write such a guideline. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 16:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Vietnam-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone  10:09, 26 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 10:49, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Can't see the point of a redirect - in other years where there has not been an AFF Beach Soccer Championship (for example 2015 AFF Beach Soccer Championship, 2013 AFF Beach Soccer Championship), there is no redirect. The page you would be redirecting to (AFF Beach Soccer Championship) also has erroneous information about the 2016 tournament that did not take place, and dubious information about a 2017 tournament, which mentions 8 teams taking part but lists only 5 (the same editor has provided the information).  The same editor has also entered a completely made-up schedule for the 2017 AFC Beach Soccer Championship, and is clearly publishing imaginary information, for whatever reason.  If the 2016 page is to be kept, then all results and scorers should be removed, and a simple note at the top needs to be written to say that the tournament was scheduled, but then postponed, and eventually not played.  This information can be found with a 5 or 10 minute search of the internet. Mcruic (talk) 09:38, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I've not looked at how long ago it started but lets say the AFF started in 2005 then I assumed from 2005 to now all had articles, If they don't then I won't object to it being deleted. – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 13:23, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 2014 was the first and only edition so far. There was also an unofficial edition in 2008 (not organised by AFF, the Raja Muda Johor Cup, which actually had 9 AFF countries competing compared to the 2014 official event's 7).  The AFF-organised event was meant to be biennial - but this year's edition was postponed.  It is not clear yet whether it will be held next year, or if this edition will just be skipped and the next edition will be played in 2018. Possibly the page could be left, but the fake content (results, goalscorers) could be taken out and a note could be made to say the tournament was scheduled but not held. I am not sure of the protocol for "scheduled tournaments that didn't take place" - are they deemed sufficiently noteworthy to have their own page? Mcruic (talk) 23:51, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I think some can be if there's alot of news coverage around it - If there's not then I'd generally say no they're not, Anyway tanks for explaining that (I've just checked the article and indeed they've only had one event so far so seems silly to keep this), Anyway thanks again. – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 01:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete under A11 criteria. Nördic   Nightfury  10:19, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The article mentioned that the event took place in early December, but there are no valid sources that I could find on English Google that support the claim. I have also had a look by editing the name, I have found one for a similar Vietnamese-hosted event in September but web page appears to be malformed. I'm on the edge for this one at the moment, until I can safely say there is no other sources available, I will have to go for tentative delete. Nördic   Nightfury  10:33, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * 2nd edit I have found a better page here but it doesn't have any significant details; this may be the source that we are looking for. Nördic   Nightfury  10:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * These are 2 completely different tournaments. The "Asian Beach Games" are a biennial multi-sport event held by the Asian Olympic Council for all Asian countries - beach soccer is one of the sports at that event.  The "AFF Beach Soccer Championship" is for members of AFF only (ASEAN Football Federation - for ASEAN (i.e. Southeast Asian) countries). The AFF Beach Soccer Championship was not held this year - as per the official AFF website (http://www.aseanfootball.org/v2/aff-beach-soccer/aff-beach-soccer-championship-2016/)  This should be deleted without question as all the information on the page is fictional.  There is also no news in Vietnamese-language news sites - which is unusual considering they supposedly won the tournament... Mcruic (talk) 14:18, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - I agree with the arguments of others; this is a misleading article and a work of fiction; deletion makes more sense than redirecting. Spiderone  21:54, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


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