Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 Alfa Indonesia DHC-4 crash


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The result was no consensus. While delete votes outnumber keep votes by a little bit, the strength of arguments on both sides seems more or less equal, and I'm not quite seeing consensus to delete.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 05:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

2016 Alfa Indonesia DHC-4 crash

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Tragic but not notable accident. Cargo plane crashes are common. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:37, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. I think the references now show notability. I added a link to the interim investigation report into the crash and the recommendation from it. Oddly, no final report has been released yet. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:14, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The sources all date to within eight days of the accident except the last, showing the coverage wasn't WP:SUSTAINED. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't know whether the creator of THE article should have a say or not, but I myself would like this to be deleted. While it's tragic, it's not notable and there hasn't been any updates on the investigation itself. PaPa PaPaRoony (talk) 07:59, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Aircraft crashes in Papua are common. No update on the investigation and no significant coverage on the crash after 2016 Nyanardsan (talk) 00:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep enough sources here to meet WP:GNG, and its an article of reasonable quality that goes above a simple news report. NemesisAT (talk) 15:30, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. We are not a news site, and there's no indication of any significant lasting effects or sustained coverage from this unfortunately fairly routine crash. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:59, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:17, 19 October 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:50, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Conditional keep – Is Alfa Indonesia a certified air carrier? A fatality accident of a large commercial aircraft typically meets community consensus guidelines for a standalone article, even if it was a cargo flight. Carguychris (talk) 16:57, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete-per nom.Best Regards.--- ✨Lazy Maniik✨  05:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC) Sockpuppet of blocked user . ✗  plicit  14:05, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete nothing particularly noteworthy about the accident and non-passenger civil aircraft are rarely notable unless they involve somebody or something of note. MilborneOne (talk) 11:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to De_Havilland_Canada_DHC-4_Caribou. Seems borderline notable, but probably better suited to a paragraph or two on the page of the aircraft model per WP:ATD. Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:38, 5 November 2021 (UTC)


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