Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2016 Quiapo road rage incident


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ‑Scottywong | gab _ 16:20, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

2016 Quiapo road rage incident

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As per WP:SENSATION. This incident is just one of the occasional road rage incidents sensationalized by the local media. Isolated crime. Also fails WP:LASTING. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 23:47, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:20, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - plenty of good sources. coverage seems extensive. the article is ok. Overall it covers WP:COVERAGE.--BabbaQ (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - I agree with Hariboneagle927. This is an isolated incident that only get covered heavily because of sensationalist local media, and much of a crime being fit for a headline in a tabloid. Plus, this crime has no historical importance, as like Hariboneagle927 said.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:00, 6 April 2017 (UTC) Comment This incident may reflect safety and security of cyclists in the Philippines. See my comments below.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:36, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * possible keep case is, in fact, continuing to draw some atteniton in the national conversation on gun crime. gNews search: .E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:25, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete: Numerous road rage incidents have occurred all over the world. Outside of media sensationalism, I can't see how this seems to be a notable incident. Cyrus the Penner (talk) 22:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - totally run of the mill. My road rage incident in Quiapo consisted of puking my guts out from motion sickness due to the snarled traffic from the back seat of a taxicab. The traffic is horrific there during Pasko.Bearian (talk) 02:31, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Weak keep A memorial installed where the biker was killed might speak of its significance to the local cycling community at least.1 2 --RioHondo (talk) 07:39, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:LASTING. This isn't a particularly notable event – road rage incidents happen all the time. There are a few references, but mostly to local news stories with brief coverage. Laurdecl talk 07:02, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:36, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
 * P.S. On a serious note: I'm not sure anyone who has not been there can comprehend just how common road rage is in Manila, especially crowded areas such as Quiapo. To list a single incident in 2016 is to downplay all of the hundreds of other incidents. Bearian (talk) 13:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment, precisely why this incident isn't really notable than any other incidents. It just happens that this particular case went viral in social media. At best, the national media covered the incident to bring light to a prevailing wider issue (Road rage in Metro Manila) like how there is a shock incident every New Years Eve in the country to highlight the issue of illegal firecrackers/indiscriminate firing of guns resulting to stray bullet incidents. Although a generalized article not focusing on a particular hyped incident on the issues I mentioned might be notable enough for an article.

Hariboneagle927 (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Aside from the traffic congestion in Metro Manila, which cause many road rage accidents, the Quiapo incident may reflect security of cyclists, along with many accidents involving motor vehicle collisions with bicycles. An article discussing bicyclists' safety in the Philippines can be created to explain the issues they face, and mention incidents reflecting them, if sources explicitly state that fact. Yes, bicyclists in the Philippines face safety and security issues from undisciplined drivers, and only a few roads have bicycle-friendly facilities, like bike lanes or bicycle priority, however many drivers still ignore themy, and cyclists are at risk.-TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article is detailed enough and does not resemble a news article, though it might need some fleshing out, i.e. expansion. As is, the event is still developing as the suspect is in police custody. --George Ho (talk) 02:53, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete-Violates WP:LASTING. Winged Blades Godric 16:46, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, Godric. Even if the effects of the event itself are not lasting, the article may still meet the main notability guideline, especially GNG. If not, then WP:Verifiability or WP:GUIDES, which says to give some occasional exceptions to the NEVENTS and/or N. George Ho (talk) 18:02, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –  Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 19:16, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * delete nothing significant or noteworthy here. Sorry but crime happens, it'll get sensationalized in the media for a time but there's no lasting significance of this event. ValarianB (talk) 12:11, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:MILL crime, coverage and impact are nothing out of the ordinary for such.  Sandstein   19:14, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


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