Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Alwar mob lynching


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The result was keep. Discussions about merge may be entertained at talk page. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  13:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

2017 Alwar mob lynching

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WP:NOTNEWS, all sources have pretty much replicated each other and none of them dates any after 8 April. Clear violation of WP:OR. Article probably violates copyrights too with close paraphrasing to source. Capitals00 (talk) 08:27, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Merge into Cow-based lynching. The topic itself is notable, albeit being minor. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep because it is not WP:NOTNEWS and meets WP:N(E). The event is notable and has been covered in detailed. The latest coverage was just 2 days ago. Jionakeli (talk) 12:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Merge and Redirect – As Kautilya3 suggested above to Cow-based lynching. Sorry to say that WP:NOTNEWS does apply here as a stand-alone piece but the article would contribute to the Cow-based lynching.  ShoesssS Talk 14:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Why do you think it is WP:NOTNEWS? All the 4 points listed there can't be attributed to this topic. It has significant coverage in both national and international media and is still being covered, after 2 months from the incident. Jionakeli (talk) 15:55, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep - meets WP:GNG. And has good sourcing.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:56, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't know why people are wasting our time with frivolous AfDs.  This was a major news event in India, reported by newspapers around the world, running into the thousands.  A Muslim dairy farmer in his late 50s in the western Indian state of Rajasthan, who was transporting two cows he and his son had bought at an animal fair back to their farm, was brutally attacked and eventually murdered by screaming band of 20-something, semi-literate, Hindu nationalist goons, who were accusing the man and his son of intention to slaughter the two animals, the violence recorded by a passer-by. If there is close paraphrasing, it needs to be corrected, but the event is very notable.  Cow-based lynching is the garbage article that needs to be instantly AfD'd, if for no other reason than its title not being idiomatic English.   Fowler&amp;fowler  «Talk»  15:44, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete and merge with Cow-based lynching. No convictions took place either nor the individuals involved in this incident are any notable or continuously discussed. 223.223.135.253 (talk) 16:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Police has already arrested 3 persons and looking for the key accused, and the topic is still being covered in mediaAlwar lynching: Pehlu Khan’s uncle threatens to commit suicide with entire family.Jionakeli (talk) 16:34, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Replica reports from April are not going to establish notability or add any importance. See WP:NOTNEWS. Capitals00 (talk) 16:50, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * These are not replica reports nor press releases. Each new event got enough press coverage making WP:NOTNEWS inapplicable to it. The topic has been covered in almost all national media including international media like the New York Times, the Guardian etc. Even it has been referred to document many other topics related to Rajasthan, Govt. policies:

and more. There are other similar lynching incidents in Assam, in Delhi but this particular topic got enough importance to have its own article.Jionakeli (talk) 18:20, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * Cow-based lynching is pretty short and navigation could be improved by merging all three separate articles on such events into a single article. But that would take a lot of work and editing. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:02, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It will take a few minutes or hours. I am seeing that these articles have been unnecessarily expanded by over-emphasizing the material, repeating it on lead, then other sections, despite each incident deserves description of no more than 3 or 4 sentences. Capitals00 (talk) 17:04, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Yes, if someone wanted to do the work it wouldn't take that long, I overstated things. Just not something I'm really interested in doing, I'm afraid and of course there may be some pushback from the editors who've created separate incident articles. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:08, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * 2015 Dadri mob lynching is probably notable, but rest are not and they are SPA creations. Best is to go and AFD each of them if this AFD closes against keep. Capitals00 (talk) 17:11, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes I haven't looked into the separate articles as thoroughly as you. I'm generally all for having one really great main article. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:19, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The article in question is short no more and will likely be expanded significantly. I have been drafting a similar article and just moved the material into that article.VR talk  21:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. This is a very notable event with long-term consequences. I've been researching it for months now. As of last week media is still publishing articles on the event. I understand the article currently isn't great, but it can be expanded.VR talk  21:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge with Cow-based lynching, no need for a separate article it doesn't received much global coverage like the Dadri incident. Redhat101   Talk  06:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * POV without guideline connection does not trump WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 09:29, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep First of all, this incident in Rajasthan was covered extensively by the Indian media and foreign publications like The Guardian, Khaleej Times, The National and The New York Times. This is still being covered (See Hindustan Times, The Indian Express, Indiatimes, Frontline and The Quint). There have been several incidents of almost the same nature but the coverage received by this death is enough to warrant a standalone article. Incidents of less note can be merged to a suitable place but this one meets WP:GNG and the continued coverage shows that this isn't a regular news item. --Skr15081997 (talk) 14:04, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep -- has the appearance of being a significant event 'Month after murder, Pehlu’s killers walk free', Times of India & Delaying Justice For Pehlu Khan a Mockery of Governance, Say Former IAS Officers, Thwire.in, for example. K.e.coffman (talk) 16:25, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep clearly passes GNG. ChunnuBhai (talk) 07:49, 29 June 2017 (UTC)


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