Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 BWF World Championships


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Courcelles (talk) 00:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

2017 BWF World Championships

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Probably a case of WP:TOOSOON. The "official website" doesn't lead to a website for this championship, but to the 2015 championships.  Onel 5969  TT me 00:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Articles for World championships in significant sports are often created years in advance like 2021 World Aquatics Championships, 2021 World Championships in Athletics, 2023 World Men's Handball Championship. They will obviously get articles later in any case if the World doesn't collapse or something like that. 2017 BWF World Championships is the next World championship in the sport and linked in World badminton champs. When the host has been selected there is something to write and fans who want to know it. They can find additional information in the sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The 2021 IAAF and 2021 FINA championships are presently under discussion at AfD, and will probably be kept, given the amount of coverage presently available. The 2023 world handball championships, on the other hand, look like a VERY STRONG candidate for an AfD discussion.  In these discussions about future sports events we have to balance WP:CRYSTAL, WP:EVENT, WP:GNG and common sense.  We just deleted an article about the 2032 Summer Olympics, and it was a very solid decision.  In the end, it comes down to whether there is really anything of substance to say.  The bidding and selection process for future Olympics and future FIFA World Cups has become a very big deal.  Not so much for most other sport championship selection processes.  See my comment below.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:50, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Worth note that both the articles that you said were presently under discussion at AfD resulted in keep.RonSigPi (talk) 02:05, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete and comment. Per WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. As for the 2021 and 2023 events, when articles get found by editors like myself, they get nominated for deletion and are usually soon gone. Like 2022 Ryder Cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamJE (talk • contribs) 11:51, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Userfy for now, as textbook WP:CRYSTAL-gazing. As an analogy, we know precisely when and where the 2028 U.S. presidential elections will be held, and much more, but even so there is as yet inadequate reliable speculation on the topic to support a meaningful encyclopedic article. Here, sources (eg, , ) seem to have practically no non-promotional material besides the single sentence which currently composes the article. As preparations advance, notability will come; probably 3-12 months will suffice for adequate sources to emerge. FourViolas (talk) 04:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as PrimeHunter says. Snowsuit Wearer (talk&#124;contribs) 20:07, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 00:10, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 00:10, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 00:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Scotland-related deletion discussions. Toffanin (talk) 00:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak delete - WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. The existing coverage of this low-profile championship does not justify a stand-alone article at this time.  The schedule of future BWF championships can easily be incorporated into a table in the parent BWF article.  And, no, comparing the BWF badminton championships to the future Olympics, or future IAAF or FINA world championships is not an apt analogy, as those events receive a great deal more coverage by an order of magnitude or greater.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:42, 1 September 2015 (UTC) Struck delete !vote per discussion below.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Badminton is a big sport in many countries, especially in Asia. See for example about China. You are American and I trust it's very small there. BWF World Championships shows a single American medal out of 442, versus 323 of 2036 at IAAF World Championships in Athletics, and 540 of 2576 at FINA World Aquatics Championships. 2017 BWF World Championships is the next World championship and not several championships away like the other examples mentioned here. Keeping those and deleting this would look like systemic bias. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  16:54, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep per above - Had this article had no sources I'd of gone Delete but obviously there's sourcing here all of which confirm the year (Although 1 confirms the actual date it would be nice if they all did!) but anyway notability does seem to be there so will have to go with Keep. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:07, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You imply that the subject satisfies the general notability guidelines per WP:GNG. Can you please identify and link to the significant coverage in multiple, independent, reliable sources as required by GNG?  My cursory review of the article shows that two of the three linked sources are either national or international badminton federations (i.e., not independent).  The third source is an obscure website that covers international games events; that's a pretty slender thread to claim that GNG is satisfied.  If there is significant coverage in other independent sources, please identify them.  I'm happy to change my !vote if you or anyone else can produce the significant coverage in independent sources.  Thanks.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 22:31, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep World championships of an Olympic sport where a host has already been selected. A simple Google search for "2017 BWF World Championships Glasgow" yields a number of articles.  The results are of varying quality and some certainly have issues, but plenty is there to support an article.  This is not even close.RonSigPi (talk) 02:11, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You said "A simple Google search for '2017 BWF World Championships Glasgow' yields a number of articles." Okay.  Fair enough.  Please link to three of those articles (from three different sources) from your Google search that represent significant coverage in reliable, independent sources per WP:GNG.  If you can list those three sources in bullet-point fashion immediately below, I will be happy to change my !vote to "keep".  Thanks.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:43, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Feel free to pick these sources apart, but you asked for 3 so here are the first 3 I came across that I think meet what you are asking for:
 * Source 1 - - Daily Record - major Scottish newspaper/tabloid.
 * Source 2 - - Sports specific website with extensive Olympic sports coverage.
 * Source 3 - - Arm of Xinhua News Agency - China media company.
 * RonSigPi (talk) 03:47, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what to make of InsideTheGames.biz, but I will certainly accept The Daily Record and Xinhua as independent reliable sources. Neither article is exactly a feature article on the subject, but you have found reliable, independent sources that discuss an international championship that is the next one in its series.  I hope these latter two make their way into the present article (which is a little light on content and sources).  Please note that my vote in this AfD is influenced by the fact that 2017 is the next BWF championship in the BWF series; given the depth of coverage, I would probably continue to maintain that it is too soon for articles on 2019 and 2021.  Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak keep per discussion with RonSigPi above. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:45, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep - per RonSigPi and Davey2010, this article is the next BWF championship in the series. MrWooHoo (talk) 00:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


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