Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Huwara shooting


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The result was delete. Creation in violation of WP:ARBPIA3 and no substantial content edits by ECP-confirmed editors Neil N  talk to me 14:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

2017 Huwara shooting

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Non-notable incident in which a road was blocked by rioters who had stopped and attacked a car and were pounding it with rocks and threatening driver and passenger. Driver responded by shooting in self-defense, killing one of the rioters. Garnered a little coverage in a single news cycle. Delete ad per WP:NOTNEWS. AfD started as per notability discussion on article's talk page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2017 May 21.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 11:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Palestine-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   12:23, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions.   CAPTAIN RAJU  (✉)   12:23, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete - based on the current coverage. If this develops further (it might - it looks like this was an organized, not random, kidnapping/lynching attempt that involved both riots enveloping the car and a Red Crescent ambulance cutting across the road barrier (from the opposing side) and blocking the car - the ambulance driver was arrested the subsequent night) - it might merit an article, but probably under a different name. As it stands - it is a single news cycle item.Icewhiz (talk) 12:30, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Icewhiz Is that a new tactic, using a Red Crescent ambulance to block a civilian car during a riot? This stretch of road Huwawa appears to be a regular site for riots/attacks of this kind.  I wonder whether we should perhaps redirect this to a new section to be created for the purpose at Huwawa, on the model of Bil'in.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:16, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There is video of the whole attack if you google it. I do not recall previous use of an ambulance to box in a motorist, but it might have happend. Palestinians have abused ambulances before to move infantry and rockets. This particular stretch of road, route 60 through Huwara is one of the only bits of settler travelled main road that goes through a Palestinian settlement.Icewhiz (talk) 17:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)


 * (I don't have a right of vote) keep - it was an attempted murder, that if it would success, it was very dramatically and covered widely by the media. See previous cases, as the Murders of Koby Mandell and Yosef Ishran, which shocked the Israeli public, and the 2000 Ramallah lynching, which marked by some views the start of the second intifada. Deaths by rocks throwing were also very important: see for example the Deaths of Asher and Yonatan Palmer and the Death of Yehuda Shoham. I suggest that you will keep the article and develop it, and change its name to 2017 Huwara lynching attempt. 95.86.108.250 (talk) 14:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per NOTNEWS and GNG. It's the second article (the first was 2017 Jerusalem Light Rail stabbing) of a user who writes exclusively on non-notable Israeli/Palestinian violent incidents. I googled a bit and it seems the one discussed here was already forgotten, garnering no follow-up, as was to be expected. Wikipedia is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a Middle East RSS news feed.AddMore-III (talk) 14:45, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural delete Without commenting on the merits of the article, this is the second time User:ThePagesWriter has created an article in violation of WP:ARBPIA3. Consider this the ARBPIA equivalent of a WP:G5 speedy deletion. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 15:37, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Notice This AfD is the subject of a discussion at WP:ANI. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 04:08, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete Not every incident of violence should get a Wikipedia article, regardless of history of violence in that region. A 1-2 sentence listing at List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, 2017 is enough. ValarianB (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect and Merge to Huwara and linked from at List of violent incidents in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, 2017.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC) Although I started this AfD, due to facts emerging in the discussion, I took a  closer look at the indident (which involved rioters bused in to the scent, violent attack on a civilian car, and the stunning spectacle of a Red Cross ambulance being used to block the civilian vehicle from escaping in apparent attempt to enable rioters to murder a random civilian driver) have now changed my iVote to support a redirect and merge.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


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