Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Portland train attack


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The result was Speedy keep. Riley Cohen (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

2017 Portland train attack

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1,589 people were stabbed to death in 2012. This case is not WP:NOTE. It's not treated as terrorism, so I don't see why this should be relevant. Rævhuld (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep (speedy keep) - subject has received significant in-depth coverage in reliable sources and nominator fails to put forward a valid basis for deletion (just saying "not notable" isn't a reason for deletion, the number of stabbings is irrelevant, and the fact that something is or is not terrorism is not a notability factor). This is a quite frivolous nomination. Neutralitytalk 16:18, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep (speedy keep) as per Neutrality. This is an event that has attracted international news attention, not merely local or national news attention.Midnightblueowl (talk) 16:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree om the fact that the incident wasn't treated as terrorism, but there was international attention to the incident as it was an attack related to anti-muslim and racial slurs. This incident might be an example of a hate crime despite the victims not being the intended target by the suspect. And if this incident is treated as a hate crime, it could be treated as encyclopedic.JBergsma1 (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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 * Keep (disclaimer: article creator), of course, per WP:GNG. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, has received sufficient coverage from reliable sources and many public figures, including President Trump, have publicly offered condolences and spoken out against the attack. κατάστασ  η  18:00, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep -- this is clearly more than just a run-of-the-mill incident. (And part of the discussion is of course, "Why isn't this being treated as a terrorist incident?")--NapoliRoma (talk) 18:05, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep It's certainly a notable event. It has gathered attention of the Press. -- M h hossein   talk 18:07, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep: per other comments on this page. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:32, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. A number of references are available. --Edcolins (talk) 18:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep by now it should be obvious there is overwhelming consensus this meets relevant notability requirements. Bri (talk) 19:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep The nominator claims it is not terrorism, but "The FBI is investigating the attack and will determine whether it should be categorized as a federal hate crime or an act of domestic terrorism." per ABC News. It has widely been described as the double murder of good samaritans responding to a hate crime, and it took place on public transit. It has gained worldwide notice including from the US president, which the nominator might have noticed didn't happen for the other claimed 1500 stabbings. Edison (talk) 20:00, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep (speedy keep). No question this event is notable, with significant coverage in national and international media. --Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep Even if the crime wasn't a 'beyond a doubt' hate crime, the fact it occurred on a light-rail train makes it obvious as a 'doesn't happen often' event and would have been also kept on that basis. The nom is definitely WP:TROUTworthy.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 20:12, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment this is a snow keep, but I suspect in a few months it may be re-visited in the AfD process. The current publicity around this event is primarily political in nature, but that is often enough for this type of article, e.g. Shooting of Kathryn Steinle. Power~enwiki (talk) 20:23, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep Agree with previous points made, and terrorism isn't the only form of notable crime. If similar stabbing incidents like the 2016 Magnanville stabbing, 2016 Würzburg train attack, 2017 Paris machete attack, 2016 Shchelkovo Highway police station attack, etc. have their own articles with the same or less coverage, I see no reason why this can't. Kamalthebest (talk) 20:56, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep, snow close. The president commented on it. It has attracted national attention. MB298 (talk) 21:23, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sources indicate notability. Everyking (talk) 22:39, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep. If a Muslim kills someone, it is immediately notable. If an anti-Muslim kills someone, an editor wants to delete the article. The double standard here is palpable. WWGB (talk) 23:05, 29 May 2017 (UTC)


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