Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Southern Europe heat wave


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  08:38, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

2017 Southern Europe heat wave

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Trivia. Wikipedia is not about summer weather. — JFG talk 07:17, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


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 * Comment – Actually, there's an article devoted to said types of weather, located at Extreme weather. North America1000 13:44, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. Tyw7  (🗣️ Talk to me • ✍️ Contributions) 14:50, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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 * I'm adding a info box and ref's. --79.77.215.132 (talk) 17:56, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * References most certainly improve a text's chances of surviving an AfD process. Infoboxes do not affect them. -The Gnome (talk) 18:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - I think IP's recent additions are going into too much detail and often relying on somewhat iffy sources, but the subject has clear notability. Here is some of this year's coverage:, , , , , , ... Most of these are not WP:SIGCOV but they show WP:LASTING. Coincidentally, "Lucifer" is mentioned in today's edition of New Scientist.  Daß &thinsp;  Wölf  00:43, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * “Polar bear cubs were given chunks of ice and freezing-cold watermelons.“ Is this going to save the article? Are we serious? — JFG talk 01:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't say the article was in good shape. That is not a reason for deletion, however.  Daß &thinsp;  Wölf  03:16, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Correct. When I brought this to AfD, the article was mostly empty. Now it's full of sourced trivia. The stub state was better… — JFG talk 04:21, 9 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hoax article?--92.20.201.243 (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * No, 2017 was really a hot summer in the Mediterranean. The question is whether the weather deserves an article every time some region gets hot or cold. We need to define an WP:NWEATHER notability guideline, just like we have WP:NSPORT or WP:NMUSIC. — JFG talk 17:50, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I fully agree about the need to have notability guidelines specifically for weather events. -The Gnome (talk) 18:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. Looks like just a standard heat wave with a bunch of trivia added to it that doesn't pass WP:INDISCRIMINATE or WP:GNG. News papers always do stories about weather in summer, so nothing I've seen really passes WP:DUE. Kingofaces43 (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete on account of mediocre sourcing for such an ostensibly important phenomenon.
 * Sources:
 * From the United Kingdom we get The Sun and The Daily Mail and no more need be said, while both The Guardian article and the BBC report mention the weather but not as a cause of the fires. The Portuguese source Sapo24 is a report about fires; no mention of the weather at all. In German, we get a simple weather map. At least, both the Boston Globe article and that other Guardian article are straightforwardly about a European heat wave. But that's not enough, at least not yet. -The Gnome (talk) 18:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete We do not need a Wikipedia article on every time some weather records are broken. Lasting notability from local events not established. Reywas92Talk 21:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)


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