Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 Transylvania University machete attack


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The result was redirect to List of attacks related to post-secondary schools. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  13:29, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

2017 Transylvania University machete attack

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A WP:NOTNEWS event that received an expected wave of coverage in late April 2017. Since the peak of its attention has ended, it did not display any WP:LASTING impact (in fact local sources even claimed the university had "moved on" by May 1! ). There is an ongoing trial which inevitably will garner some attention but please remember this is WP:ROUTINE, not an indication of significant coverage.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 04:44, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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 * This needs a closer look, but a college student walking on campus and asking other students if they are Democrats or Republicans, then attacking the ones who give the "wrong" answer with a knife is hardly "routine."E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I do not recall calling the event itself "routine" but thanks for that. I think I wrote a rationale for why it is not notable, at least as a standalone article.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:25, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Redirect to List of attacks related to post-secondary schools, which is all the mention that this needs. This doesn't seem to have gotten much national, let alone international, coverage - note how many of the sources in the article are local. Fails just about every facet of WP:NEVENT: no lasting effects, very limited geographical scope, coverage beyond local sources barely lasted beyond the day of the event, most of the non-local sources basically just say the same thing. ansh 666 00:35, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric  02:40, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Seraphim System  ( talk ) 02:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - It should absolutely not redirect to List of attacks related to post-secondary schools as that page's inclusion guidelines, to quote the page itself, excludes warfare, robberies, gang violence, political or police attacks. This was a politically-motivated attack and is thus ineligible to be included in the List of attacks related to post-secondary schools. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 16:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * you took that part out of context - it says immediately after (as part of protests), which does not apply here. ansh 666 17:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Consensus states otherwise. Before this article was trimmed in October 2015 it used to include; the Mustansiriya University bombings, the Mercaz HaRav massacre, the Lal Masjid siege, the Gujba college massacre and the Boston Marathon bombing, which were all removed for this very reason (ie. being politically-motivated attacks.) Note that none of these attacks occurred during protests. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:13, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Err, no, those are large-scale terrorist attacks. Quite different. ansh 666 21:30, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
 * List of attacks related to post-secondary schools, is a list that contains precisely this sort of incident.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Except that it was not just "large-scale terrorist attacks" that were removed from the List of attacks related to post-secondary schools but rather all politically-motivated attacks; for example, the murder of Moritz Schlick at the University of Vienna used to be included, but was removed. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect and selective merge to List of attacks related to post-secondary schools. I admit surprise that a politically conservative student complaining that political conservatives are scorned on campus, then seeking out and stabbing avowed Democrats did not draw much attention. However, beyond wire service story and a single reported story in the New York Daily News on the day it happened, the story seems to have drawn only local attention.  If it becomes a thing, an article can of course be created, but at present the sources are simply not there to support a stand-alone article.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:57, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above !votes d.g. L3X1  (distænt write)   )evidence(  14:59, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


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