Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017 WGC-Dell Match Play


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The result was delete.  MBisanz  talk 00:49, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

2017 WGC-Dell Match Play

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WP:TOOSOON Event is a year away and dates are not official yet. Article is basically a copy of the main article and 2016 event. It contains no info on the 2017 version. I tried to make this into a redirect but article creator reverted. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Secondly, it was of no surprise when we found who is trying to do this deletion. The user in question has an extensive history of years of arguing with Wikipedia editors and making their online experience quite uncomfortable. The user in question also has 8 blocks on their record and threats of several more blocks from administrators who are tired of their troublemaking. I fully expect that the article will stay up as it is, as there is no credible reason for it to come down, even with a redirect; if there had been a legitimate reason for the article not to exist yet, I'd not have bothered to create it at this time. And even if it is to come down, it will only be a matter of hours before it is back up again, as there are a handful of editors who are equipped with the script for it who will have no qualms about putting it back up immediately at their first availability. This pettiness and nonsense will not be tolerated. Johnsmith2116 (talk) 00:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * KEEP There are a couple of things that need to be addressed here. Firstly, for special events that are held annually (such as certain golf tournaments like this one), it's common for a Wikipedia editor to prepare the article six months to a year in advance, and there typically not only isn't any problem with it, but additionally other editors usually help out to get it prepared as much as possible, regardless of the date the event is to be held. (This is the first time I have ever encountered someone being bothered with this common practice.) Also, this business of preparing an article up to a year in advance is done frequently in not only golf, but also auto racing, tennis, and the Olympics. Look at the Masters and other articles of its kind for this year, and you will find they were prepared a year in advance with no problem.
 * CommentAgain you start in with personal attacks against me without proof and which earned you a week long block over two years ago. Do you really want me to ping the blocking administrator so he can decide if another and even longer block is necessary?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 01:54, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Golf-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:04, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 16:19, 3 April 2016 (UTC) Delete No matter what the nom has done before, this is definitely WP:TOOSOON. This page should be created only a month or two before the event, not a year beforehand. Sheepythemouse (talk) 22:47, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: Raised eyebrow time: for an editor of Johnsmith2116's longevity to claim that he'd never encountered a TOOSOON complaint about a sports event before can only suggest he's new to editing sports articles; I've seen this quite frequently over the years. (Such a claim is also untrue: he was warned about incivility in terms of CRYSTALling two years ago. ) The standard defense is that TOOSOON doesn't apply where there is known information backed by reliable sources concerning the tournament.  But that's not the case here.  With the exception of the date change, the infobox is copied from the 2016 tournament article.  The only cited reference plainly refers to the 2016 tournament, and not to the 2017 one. That aside, whatever Johnsmith2116's irrelevant complaints about the nom may be, they're trumped by his threat that his buddies are prepared to defy the community's consensus here, and put this non-qualifying article right back up should we decide to delete it.  For my part, I'm happy to add the page to my watchlist should it be deleted through process, and get a G4 speedy on it should that happen.  In the words of a wise editor, John, is this the hill you want to die on?   Ravenswing   07:19, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: It's not an article, it's more like a template waiting to be filled in. Wiki is not a crystal ball. After (if) the event occurs then write the article, otherwise it's like putting the cart before the horse. The Results section borders on idiotic. Samf4u (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete: I agree it is WP:TOOSOON and the sole reference is the "Format Overview and Glossary", which is entirely generic and does not even mention the 2017 event. It seems to fail WP:GNG on that basis. - Ahunt (talk) 00:17, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Note to closing administrator If this AFD is closed as a delete, I propose that the article be SALTed for 6 months based on the article creator's threat (Quote- And even if it is to come down, it will only be a matter of hours before it is back up again, as there are a handful of editors who are equipped with the script for it who will have no qualms about putting it back up immediately at their first availability.) above to recreate the article....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete for now as noticeably too soon. SwisterTwister   talk  04:51, 10 April 2016 (UTC)


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