Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 IIHF World Championship Division I


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:05, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

2018 IIHF World Championship Division I

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Article about a sports tournament that will not happen for nearly a year. Consists of empty tables and closely connected sources. This stats page is WP:TOOSOON and fails WP:NOTSTATS. - MrX 13:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 13:51, 22 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep Trying to understand the nomination; calling it a stats page, when it does not yet have stats is puzzling. It displays how the teams involved qualified for their respective tournaments.  It also briefly discusses the nominations for hosting.  The referencing could be better, but having an independent page for explaining qualification and hosting, that will later fill up with stats, seems perfectly reasonable.  As for TOOSOON, the hosting was news now, seems appropriate to explain it now.  Perhaps redirecting until main page is too cumbersome could be appropriate, but it seems rather big already in my opinion.18abruce (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I called it a stats page because it has empty tables for the stats that will exist almost a year in the future. Wikipedia is not a sports almanac for events that haven't even happened. The title should be redirected until there is meaningful content with WP:INDEPENDENT sources. There are currently meta discussions about forbidding recent news events from being added to Wikipedia until well after the events have occurred. Adding far future events is magnitudes worse in my opinion. - MrX 20:59, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Except that if you read the page, or read my comments, you would know that what is being discussed is current events, that affect the future. The standings tables are not necessary right now, but that is only one part of the page.  Explaining the effect of what happened in late April, and what was voted on last week, do not in any way constitute an almanac or being a "stats page".  If you need assistance understanding the content please ask.18abruce (talk) 22:30, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep As mentioned above, it helps to have separate pages to explain qualification and hosting, which have already been decided. Smartyllama (talk) 19:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: No part of WP:CRYSTAL this violates.   Ravenswing   20:37, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Far future event in 2018? Try to read 2026 FIFA World Cup or 2028 Summer Olympics. 185.59.158.22 (talk) 22:04, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Not crystal as it is discussing current events that will effect a future event. -DJSasso (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per all above. Ejgreen77 (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep I say keep as it's not crystal and there are reliable sources dated for the future event. Matt294069 is coming 03:53, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Feels like snow in here... Kante4 (talk) 16:49, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per 18abruce and Smartyllama. Rlendog (talk) 13:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Snow keep: per other comments on this page. --Guy Macon (talk) 02:11, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:03, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
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