Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats football team


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats. Concerns raised about this being a viable ATD seem to have been addressed Star   Mississippi  14:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

2018 Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats football team

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Subject does not pass the WP:NSEASONS with all of the sources in the article being primary. Unremarkable season at the NAIA level, didn't win a championship or bowl game. PROD was declined. Let&#39;srun (talk) 04:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, American football,  and Indiana. Let&#39;srun (talk) 04:03, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You de-prodded this as an "easy GNG pass", but all of the sources in the article are self-published game summaries from IWU and thus not WP:INDY. Did you have other sourcing in mind when you de-prodded? Cbl62 (talk) 10:18, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A google search does turn up this item from the Indianapolis Star. A Newspapers.com search turns up a few brief game summaries such as this, this, and this, all from the same outlet. Cbl62 (talk) 16:43, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That first article seemed to me like it would be a good source for the Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats, as it is more about the formation of the program than anything else. Let&#39;srun (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: More input would be helpful on whether a redirect is reasonable. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NotAGenious (talk) 12:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete. I agree with User:Let& that the first IndyStar source I linked above is more about the start of the program as a whole, not so much specific to the 2018 team. That leaves the brief game blurbs from the IndyStar. Given that this is an NAIA team (i.e., the fifth and lowest rung of college football) and it compiled a relatively ordinary 7–3 record with no post-season play, I don't believe the brief game blurbs warrant a stand-alone article. Cbl62 (talk) 21:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats - fails WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV largely per Cbl62’s analysis. Could be a reasonable search term.  Frank   Anchor  05:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirects in such cases are a mistake. When a reader looks at the team navbox (Template:Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats football navbox), a redirect fills in a redlink and creates the impression that a season article exists. Our general practice in the college football project has long been against creating such redirects for seasons where no article exists and we are simply redirecting to the overarching program article. Where no stand-alone article exists for either the particlar year (or a "decade" or "coaching tenure" article), the redlink should remain. Cbl62 (talk) 21:22, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * To clarify my opposition to redirect, we have carefully avoided redirects such as this. Such redirects disrupt the functionality of team templates such as this: Template:Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats football navbox. By filling in the redlink for 2018, a redirect would (i) suggest inaccurately that a season article exists for the 2018 team, (ii) likely lead others to believe that even more season articles for this low-level, NAIA program are appropriate and desirable (they are not). Further, the team template already includes a link to the overall program article, and repeating the link over and over for each year provides no net benefit whatsoever. 20:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per Cbl62, low-level play does not need individual season articles. Reywas92Talk 20:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats. A redirect at this title would be more than reasonable if it were created independently of this discussion, and there is material found at that page about the 2018 season of this team, so I think that it makes sense to redirect it there. That some templates don't like this is a problem with the templates, not with the existence of the redirect. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 00:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It is false to assert that the main page has material about the 2018 team. This fifth-division football program began operating in 2018 and that bare fact is mentioned in the main article. But there is no information whatsoever about the 2018 team or its results, players, highlights, etc. Redirecting breaks a system we have carefully cultivated for the past decade, and with no good reason whatsoever. Cbl62 (talk) 00:46, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It is false to assert that the main page has material about the 2018 team is untrue. There, quite plainly, is a results table that includes the 2018 team in it. — Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 01:20, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Indiana Wesleyan Wildcats per above and WP:CHEAP. Alvaldi (talk) 11:41, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.