Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Kiryandongo bus accident


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The result was keep. There seems a rough consensus (post filtering out partial unsuited justifications) that the accident was of sufficient scale and provoked sufficient national reaction to warrant retention. (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 10:58, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

2018 Kiryandongo bus accident

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PROD contested by IP, no reason given. WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTMEMORIAL apply - no evidence of any lasting notability here. GiantSnowman 15:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - Looks a lot like WP:NOTNEWS applies here. Basically everything on this subject is simply news reporting, but I concur there is nothing to establish notability other than it's a news event.   Red Phoenix  talk  16:01, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - This article is poorly written and it needs re-editing. It is however notable just as 2018 Kazakhstan bus fire and 1999 Deutschlandsberg bus crash. Senegambianamestudy (talk) 17:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the other two are notable as well per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; they appear to have the same NOTNEWS issue as I look over them.  Red Phoenix  talk  18:48, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. North America1000 19:22, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete I am inclined to agree with Red Phoenix  talk .  Whilst the above mentioned accidents are newsworthy, serious and saddening, they are not necessarily notable according as per WP:NOTNEWS.  An example of notable, in my opinion, would be if the bus crash was the worst in the country's history, or the accident resulted in the greatest loss of life through vehicular accident in the country's history.  This is not an attempt to in any way diminish the seriousness of the event or to offend anyone involved, but it must be appreciated that there are millions of accidents which result in the loss of life every day and the vast majority are not appropriate for inclusion in the encyclopedia.  The news outlets do the job of covering the ones that Wikipedia cannot.  ThePastoral (talk)
 * Keep. I think the fact that the President of Uganda declared three days of mourning shows that this was an event of national significance and it has been covered in the international press (WP:EVENTCRIT#2). It's not just one of many daily accidents. If we had an article about Gaagaa Buses I might have suggested merging there and adding detail on their subsequent license revocation, which itself resulted resulted in strike threats, but we don't. Merging to Kiryandongo would overwhelm that article, so: keep, with no prejudice against a later merge. &rsaquo; Mortee  talk 07:47, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I think this has achieved the level of coverage required for WP:NEVENT. Another example of a recent, similar accident is the Humboldt Broncos bus crash. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:32, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep per Mortee, since it did receive international coverage from multiple sources which is WP:EVENTCRIT#2. Also would be happy to merge to a Gagaa Bus article if there were one - I did a search, and the company shows up in multiple crash articles from Uganda (most of which didn't achieve this level of international coverage). --GRuban (talk) 12:17, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the international coverage it has recieved and per the fact the country is or had 3 days of mourning ... – Davey 2010 Talk 21:03, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Can we for one moment imagine that if 22 people died in a road accident in Britain or America we'd even be at AfD? Of course it's notable. And a clear case of WP:SYSTEMIC. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:59, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


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