Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Summer Youth Olympics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Not very strong arguments on either side - I would suggest placing a redirect to the main article on te Summer Youth Games to preserve the history until more sources can be found. However, I cannot substitute this compromise as an AfD result, so please consider discussing this. Fritzpoll (talk) 11:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

2018 Summer Youth Olympics

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Disputed prod. Nothing notable to say about this event yet. Per WP:CRYSTAL, this article should only be created when we have reliable sources that discuss cities' intentions to bid. This is the same criteria we have for articles such as 2028 Summer Olympics (which exists) and 2032 Summer Olympics (which doesn't). Although on the surface it may seem inconsistent that we have an article about the main Games for 2028, but should not have an article about this event (10 years earlier), the difference is that we have reliable sources about several cities for 2028, while no such source exists for any city for the 2018 Youth Games. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Also, there was a deletion discussion on the 2016 United States presidential election a few months ago that had more reliable speculation on it than this, and it was deleted. Tim  meh  !  18:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Since the youth Olympics is for athletes between 14 and 18, the future competitors are in kindergarten and elementary school at present, playing on swing sets and monkey bars. Mandsford (talk) 19:14, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - Whilst it does seem inconstistent that we have an article about an Olympics to be held in 19 years whilst not a Youth Olympics held in 9 years, the main difference - as Andrwsc states - is that the 2028 page has sourced information, whilst the latter has nothing other than will they will be held. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  20:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (PS - I had to have a chuckle at Mandsford's comment.)


 * Keep - there is no crystal ball, everybody knows this event will take place, and my own city, Toulouse, is gearing up to bid after its failed 2014 attempt. Hektor (talk) 21:47, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As soon as we have one WP:reliable source that says as much, the article can be re-created. But none exist today. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:07, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete until there are some reliable sources on which cities will be bidding. Tavix | Talk  22:46, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm a little puzzled at figuring out what harm it does to have these article stubs ready for events which will very likely take place. It may not be necessary until he bidding starts, but i don;'t see the reason to eliminate them. DGG (talk) 13:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * But it's just as puzzling to figure out what need there is to create such stubs nine years in advance, other than to say "I did it first"? For my part, I do see harm in encouraging people to make stubs just for the sake of making stubs.  Mandsford (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There was an article in La Dépêche du Midi I provided a source. Hektor (talk) 21:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to dispute verify a newspaper source when hard-copy is not readily available to me, but an online search of their website (for "Olympique 2018") only reveals results for the Annecy bid for the 2018 Winter Olympics. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Olympiques 2018, you always say Jeux Olympiques with an s, never singular. 193.56.37.1 (talk) 15:40, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * same result — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 15:52, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete unannounced by IOC and waiting it by few years time. ApprenticeFan  talk  contribs 13:07, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * We have two sources about bids now. Originally it should be deleted because of the lack of ongoing bids. Now it must be deleted because it is too far in the future ? But then the example of the article about the 2020 Olympics is valid... Hektor (talk) 05:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * KeepThe pattern in the past has been if there are verifiable sources, we keep the page noting "potential bids". Hektor, can you post the specific quote from the newspaper since it is not online? -Cbradshaw (talk) 19:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


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