Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019–20 Bashundhara Kings season


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There's consensus that the references provided are sufficient for GNG, which trumps any guidance provided by NSEASONS. Fenix down (talk) 09:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

2019–20 Bashundhara Kings season

 * – ( View AfD View log  Stats )

The page fails WP:NSEASONS as it's not going to be notable enough to have it's own article. I will also nominate this article for the same reason.

HawkAussie (talk) 04:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 04:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 04:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. HawkAussie (talk) 04:29, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 07:13, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep it's a top flight league, why do you think it's "not going to be notable enough?" That's not a good nomination statement at all, this is a top professional league per NSEASONS, especially since Bashundhara won the championship and qualified for a continental competition (AFC Cup), and a news search brought up continuing English-language coverage of the team from as recently as two days ago (much less local language newspapers). SportingFlyer  T · C  09:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * keep looks notable to me. probably just this article needs to be developed. WP:BEFORE applies to the nominator who also said he would nominate the team as well. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 10:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - despite what claims, this is not a "top professional league" (it is not listed at WP:FPL) and no evidence the subject meets GNG. GiantSnowman 11:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NSEASONS failure – there is a longstanding consensus that for football-related season articles "top professional league" is taken to mean fully-professional league (see e.g. this, this, this or this). The Bangladeshi top division does not fall into this category (see WP:FPL). SF is well aware of this consensus, so it's disappointing to see them continuing to pretend it doesn't exist. Number   5  7  11:50, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And it's disappointing you continue to vote with a consensus that has no basis in our WP:GNG policy.         . Most of that is from the season before since it doesn't appear the 2019–20 season has started yet, but it's a general example of the English language coverage of the league, including multiple stories in different press from their last three matches. SportingFlyer  T · C  22:17, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 * We have 2019–20 Bangladesh Premier League for the league. I do not believe individual season articles for each club are necessary. Number   5  7  18:05, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Whether they're necessary or not doesn't matter - the only thing that matters is, as I've demonstrated, this season has been adequately covered by secondary sources, meaning that the topic qualifies for a Wikipedia article. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:14, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Let me ask you this, let's say that this is kept, then there is going to be plently of red pages for the players that ain't notable due to the Bangladesh Premier League not being part of the WP:FPL. By nominating this article and the other one, we won't have that possible issue of having the red links. It's basically a unspoken rule that if the players ain't eligible via the WP:FPL rule than the seasonal article wouldn't be notable enough either. HawkAussie (talk) 05:37, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Then we remove the redlinks. "Will have lots of redlinks if kept" may be an original argument to bring to an AfD and is certainly not grounded in policy. And the unspoken rule isn't compatible with our actual notability policy. SportingFlyer  T · C  00:45, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 05:20, 31 December 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NSEASONS. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 17:55, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Suggest relisting. I want to another Realist. Because here unless problems with sources. i believe that probably pass WP:NSEASONS. So therefore, it is urged to more discuss.- Nocturnal306  talk  21:29, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  NNADI GOOD LUCK  ( Talk &#124; Contribs ) 08:00, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment The suggested relisting by Nahal appears to be based on a misreading of the guideline. WP:NSEASONS does not have numbered points, so I have to assume they are referring to the third bullet point in the section. However, this is specifically related to college sports, so is not applicable in this case. If this is disregarded, perhaps the AfD should have been closed rather than relisted? Number   5  7  10:52, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - GNG is met with Sporting Flyer's many references. Do we really think seasons for the top league in Bangladesh are really not notable - whether fully professional or not (though we've been through this before WP:NFOOTBALL requires professional football - not fully-professional football - though that is moot with GNG met). Nfitz (talk) 18:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Top level seasons in Bangladesh are notable, hence why we have 2019–20 Bangladesh Premier League. Whether this really needs to be separated out into individual articles for each club is dubious. Number   5  7  12:19, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be an argument to support merge or redirect. You've been pushing for delete, which I don't see any justification for. Nfitz (talk) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep SportingFLyer presents an impressive number of refs. Furthermore, this article was listed before the season was even over, so I think it premature to decide that its not going to be notable. Although if kept it needs a substantial addition of prose to meet NSEASONS. Captain Eek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:00, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Or merge 2019–20 Bashundhara Kings season to Bashundhara Kings. at first Represents an impressive number of references. I didn't think it's eligible for delete because there are plenty of reference. I believe that passes WP:GNG. is it acceptable to delete it even after having enough source? If the WP:NSEASONS does not pass then it can to support merge/redirect. Second-tier Bashundhara Kings of the Professional Football League. It is the winner of the Bangladesh Premier League (Football) of the season 2018–2019. since it doesn't appear the 2019–20 season has started yet. - Nocturnal306   talk  23:53, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.