Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Dubai Bus Crash


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:03, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

2019 Dubai Bus Crash

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WP:NOTNEWS. (I do not see a CSD category to file this under so presume AfD is the place for this.) Lopifalko (talk) 08:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:52, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete - WP:NOTNEWS. What else can I say - it's a commonplace, if tragic, event. Not encyclopedic in any way, shape, or form. Cabayi (talk) 09:07, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. If the BBC and the Washington Post consider this news, the incident is probably notable. UAE media engage in a lot of self-censorship, but since they are covering the crash as well, I expect they will cover its aftermathh as well. I expect that the Indian government will continue to put pressure on the UAE to reduce the risk of a similar crash happening in the future, somewhat muted because India doesn't have much bargaining power in its dealings with the UAE. I also expect there will be multiple lawsuits as well as improvements in design standards for highways and off-ramps. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. -Lopifalko (talk) 09:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * No opinion on this article, but @Eastmain "If the BBC and the Washington Post consider this news, the incident is probably notable" is a ridiculous statement. Both are major media organisations with an approach of covering as much of the world as possible and allowing readers to select those stories that interest them; as I write this, "Queer Eye star bleached skin as a child", "Warning after Wrexham garden fire sets 150 tyres alight" and "Badger tunnels prompt Wyke Regis Cemetery warning" are also currently stories on BBC News. &#8209; Iridescent 09:25, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I should have said "If both the BBC and the Washington Post ..." The overlap in coverage between those two media outlets is likely to be notable. It is not crystal-ball-gazing to state that an incident in which 17 people are killed and the underlying reasons are still unclear is not going to go away. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 09:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete That would be a dangerous precedent. Both sources will cover subjects trite or ephemeral. Both covering any particular one story would not indicate anything. WP:EVENTCRIT tells us that even when routine accidents are "tragic or widely reported at the time [they] are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance."  GreatCaesarsGhost   11:18, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete - Buses/cars accidents is a sad news but they are common incidents the world and WP:NOTNEWS. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:28, 7 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice to recreating this if more indicators of notability arises this article is clearly WP:TOOSOON but I wouldn't say that there is no chance at all that it will not become notable given 1) the variety of countries where the people who died came from (including Ireland), 2) the number of people killed, and 3) the odd circumstances prevailing in the UAE. Some of the editors above seem to have the idea that there are no circumstances in which traffic accidents could be notable - this is clearly wrong: an unusually deadly crash that became the subject of a public inquiry could reach WP:GNG (see, e.g., 1991 M4 motorway crash). FOARP (talk) 19:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. MarginalCost (talk) 21:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have always considered it common sense that accidents which lead to seventeen deaths are notable. An accident in the UK or USA that caused this many deaths would undoubtedly be kept. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NOTNEWS, may be a case of WP:TOOSOON so not opposed to Draftify to see what develops. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:32, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete,Me too I am sorry for the death toll, but Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Alex-h (talk) 08:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.