Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Philippines polio outbreak


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The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

2019 Philippines polio outbreak

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WP:NOTNEWS. There is nothing especially noteworthy about this particular outbreak of vaccine-derived polio, with its 4 cases, in the context of ~20 outbreaks, and 150 cases of vaccine-derived polio across 16 countries in 2019 (so far). Any more than any particular severe winter storm, there is no reason to believe that this particular outbreak of vaccine-derived polio, among all of them that the world has seen this year and over the past few years, will uniquely have the enduring notability that is described in WP:NOTNEWS as being a critical consideration (it is 'just another outbreak' - it sucks for the handful of affected people, but is unlikely to have historical significance as a stand-alone epidemic), such that it requires special detailed coverage above that given the overall polio eradication effort (which article briefly mentions this Philippines outbreak). Agricolae (talk) 04:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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 * Considering it's the first outbreak in 19 years with coverage in multiple reliable sources I say keep. And many particularly severe winter storms ARE noteworthy especially if they're the first in a country in nearly 20 years. Plus (at risk of being labelled with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS) Wikipedia has decided every time there's a mass shooting in the US there should be an article about it. Just because a tragic event is "common" does not make it fail the criteria for notability, especially considering that Polio outbreaks in the Philippines are not common at all. Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 07:29, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And a few years ago Ukraine had the first outbreak in the all of Europe in more than a decade, and last year it was the first outbreak in Papua New Guinea in a long time, and this year China had its first outbreak in over almost a decade.  All of these outbreaks get a flurry of reports when they happen, and then the coverage disappears - the end of the outbreaks don't even get reported because by the time they are sure it is over, it is already old news.  As to the amount of coverage, there are quarterly national vaccination campaigns in countries that get just as much coverage as this event has. Again, this is WP:NOTNEWS territory - it may not be fair that many of the mass shootings in the US get such coverage, but Wikipedia was never intended to report every time a few people gets sick, even if they get sick of something so unusual that a few newspapers report it and the WHO makes an announcement. As tragic as it is for those affected, it is just another outbreak of the 20 that have happened this year. Agricolae (talk) 08:10, 20 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and the brief mention in Polio is quite sufficient. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:43, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 * keep/or redirect to Polio--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:43, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 23:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. This is a major, dangerous health crisis. Our millions of readers in the Philippines will be looking for this article. There's no question this will meet WP:42. Bearian (talk) 18:05, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * But will they be looking for it two years from now? I see no indication that there will be "enduring notability" (WP:NOTNEWS), just like there hasn't been for the parade of other outbreaks of VDPV over the past decade. Are the millions of residents of Ukraine clamoring for news about their 2015 outbreak, or the billion Chinese about their 2012 one?Agricolae (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 03:01, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of coverage in reputable sources. Rathfelder (talk) 20:14, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. I get plenty of results when I Google it. Of course, keep. Dpm12 (talk) 22:02, 4 December 2019 (UTC)


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