Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 Cavan Senior Hurling Championship


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The result was redirect to Cavan Senior Hurling Championship. ‑Scottywong | [gossip] || 16:25, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

2020 Cavan Senior Hurling Championship

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A local competition which does not appear to pass WP:GNG or WP:SPORTSEVENT. I'm more than happy to be proved wrong here but a BEFORE search didn't seem to turn up enough coverage. Spiderone 12:45, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  12:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  12:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect. Per nom, even after finding a few refs to expand the article into a semi-passable state, I'm not sure there is enough to support GNG/SIGCOV. The only references available are trivial passing mentions, including in an interview with one of the participating sportspeople and generic lists of results. The latter, in particular, confirm that the events took place and what the outcomes were. But they do not establish any notability. At all. That NOT A SINGLE OUTLET (not local, national, online or otherwise) have even the shortest of write-ups on the final is particularly telling. In all honesty I wonder if all of the related articles (on the 2020, 2016, 2015, 2014 and 2013 events) should simply be merged/redirected "back" to the "main" Cavan Senior Hurling Championship article. As, per nom, I do not see how there is enough independent and stand-alone coverage of each event. Such that each warrants a separate article. Certainly the 2020 event doesn't seem to... Guliolopez (talk) 15:48, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm happy with merge and redirect for this one Spiderone  09:31, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - We have a large number of articles at this level - "NNNN Irish-county Senior Hurling Championship" (about 700). see eg Category:Wexford Senior Hurling Championship. Not sure it makes much sense to consider this particular one in isolation. Nigej (talk) 10:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not all senior county championships are the same. The Wexford competition for example is a competition that involves 12 teams, attracts significant crowds and coverage. Including write-ups in multiple national news outlets (Irish Times) (Irish Independent). The Cavan equivalent involved a handful of teams, and didn't attract any coverage. At all. Not in local news, not in national news. Nowhere. Notwithstanding the lack of anything to support GNG, I'm intrigued to hear such a seasoned editor make such an obviously OSE argument.... Guliolopez (talk) 12:55, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * For some type of articles (and I'm thinking this is one) I think our readers expect completeness, one way or the other (ie all or none). Nigej (talk) 15:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * A common selection criteria may apply to lists and list members. But the notability criteria is intended to be granular. And is applied as such. It does not apply the same notability to all members of a given group. ("This big company is notable, so all big companies are notable". "This variant of the Ford Falcon has an article, so all variants of the Ford Falcon should have articles". "This GAA competition is notable, so all similar GAA competitions are notable". Etc. That isn't really how it works....) Regardless, if "our readers expect there to be titles for every single year of every single competition, from 1884 though to infinity", then a redirect (as proposed) meets that requirement. Without the need for a near empty article that is supported by very very limited sources. Guliolopez (talk) 16:45, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Cavan Senior Hurling Championship per above, and the other years' articles that have been spun out should probably follow suit. There's a distinct lack of coverage, and even setting that aside from a purely editorial view - this article just isn't long or detailed enough to need a separate article, and there's little scope for expansion if there isn't reliable-source coverage to base it on. ~ mazca  talk 12:58, 19 October 2020 (UTC)


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