Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 Cleveland shooting


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The result was delete. WP:NOTNEWS. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 21:31, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

2020 Cleveland shooting

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WP:NOTNEWS TheLongTone (talk) 16:47, 9 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep as information is still being released. This was a mass shooting with 18 casualties (casualties count injuries and deaths).  I think it should deserve to stay, with massive expansion of course. Elijahandskip (talk) 16:53, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Massive expansion depends on interest in this incident lasting beyond the news cycle. The guidance at Notability (events) says, don't rush to create articles.  Unfortunately, mass shootings are an almost every day event in the United States.  So far, this shooting rates a mention at List of mass shootings in the United States in 2020 but little more. • Gene93k (talk) 22:33, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 21:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment to date, this shooting has the most casualties of any 2020 mass shooting in th United States. Elijahandskip (talk) 12:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As this year is only 20% through, that's not that big a distinction, especially from the lasting coverage perspective. 17 wounded in a gang-related fight isn't a guarantee of non-routine reliable source interest.  In most other developed countries, an incident like this might be shocking.  In the United States, this level of gun violence is a fact of life and borderline WP:DOGBITESMAN without evidence that it changes anything. • Gene93k (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It also appears that all the coverage dates from March 8; if this was particularly significant I would expect ongoing coverage. Of course, this event could be the tipping point leading to sensible gun laws in America, but holding my breath I am not.TheLongTone (talk) 14:53, 10 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete. Despite the large number of people injured, this is a routine news event. The fact that searching Google News for "2020 Cleveland shooting" brings up two separate shootings in Cleveland that have occurred since this one (and this one only happened three days ago) kind of proves that. At present, the event fails each of the criteria at WP:EVENTCRIT, and that seems unlikely to change. The fact that this is currently the shooting with the largest number of casualties in the United States in 2020 is an arbitrary distinction and does not confer notability. Surachit (talk) 02:48, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:NOTNEWS. Analog Horror, ( Speak ) 20:58, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - sadly, this is WP:MILL lately. Bearian (talk) 00:11, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 *  Keep or merge - Keep the article history, or merge to List of mass shootings in the United States in 2020 in order to maintain the article history. --Jax 0677 (talk) 02:36, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Per WP:NOTNEWS. DavidLee200 (talk) 19:21, 17 March 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.