Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 Democratic Party presidential rallies


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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 03:36, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

2020 Democratic Party presidential rallies

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This article is (and I believe always will be) an incomplete list. A major issue is already going to be presented in defining what a "rally" is. Many events that might be called rallies are not advertised as such. Warren, for instance, hosts many gatherings called "organizing events" and "town halls", but these appear to be rallies. SecretName101 (talk) 16:21, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete By the time the election rolls around, thousands upon thousands of rallies will have been held for Democratic candidates. If people care that much about campaign rallies, there are websites that do that stuff. Squeeps10  Talk to meMy edits 17:42, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: Folks, if we really feel one page would be too lengthy or too long for all rallies, could we use that page to link to separate subpages documenting all rallies of the candidates then? Golfpecks256 (talk) 12:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete Far too crufty to list every event held by every candidate during a very long campaign. Perhaps the individual candidates' campaign article can list major events but this is excessive. Reywas92Talk 19:57, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: Folks, if we really feel one page would be too lengthy or too long for all rallies, could we use that page to link to separate subpages documenting all rallies of the candidates then? Golfpecks256 (talk) 12:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Folks, we've had a page that lists all of Trump's rallies. Also, a rally should be an event that is not a town hall or gathering. It should be officially labeled as such by the campaign in order to be listed. I don't see why deleting it is necessary. Golfpecks256 (talk) 22:28, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete: I don't think a list of any rally is necessarily relevant. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 06:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment: Folks, if we really feel one page would be too lengthy or too long for all rallies, could we use that page to link to separate subpages documenting all rallies of the candidates then? Golfpecks256 (talk) 12:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Golfpecks256 has a point. Not only is there a page that lists all 323 of Trump's rallies from the 2016 presidential campaign, but there's a second page that lists all ~75+ of his post-campaign rallies. No other presidential candidate past or present has a list of their rallies but Trump is an exception? Also thousands upon thousands of rallies is an incredible over-exaggeration. Many candidates are likely to drop before the Democratic nomination is clinched, or even before the Iowa caucuses, and not every candidate is rallying daily or even weekly. Please point me to a website that documents Democratic candidate rallies because my Google-Fu has turned up nothing. I am in favor of either keeping this page as is, or splitting the page off into individual lists of rallies for each of the candidates. --Peterljr888 (talk) 00:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep I agree with Golfpecks256 and Peterljr888. There is currently only one article for all democratic candidates, while Trump has two. Also, an article should not be deleted just because it is incomplete. This is a slippery slope that implicates a plethora of other incomplete articles. If you feel that an article is incomplete, you can help by improving it. Bobbychan193 (talk) 20:37, 27 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. The problem with upkeep is easily solved. Just cover the major rallies and summarize the state of the minor rallies. And there are these two articles: List of rallies for the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign and List of post-election Donald Trump rallies. But it may be premature to start the article now given there is no clear front runner and the crowd sizes are not very comparable to Trump rallies. And if Joe Biden manages to win the nomination it could be a repeat of the 2016 elections where the Democrats have a contender who lacks a very enthusiastic base that attends big rallies. Right now, some Biden allies are advising that Biden have short days to conserve his energy because when he is tired later in the day, he has a tendency to make gaffes.  Maybe having such an article would make sense if Elizabeth Warren were to become a front runner since she is generating some enthusiasm among her base and having much bigger crowds than Biden (Warren had 6,000 to 15,000 people show up at a rally). (Breitbart said the crowd size was around 6,000 people). Knox490 (talk) 02:16, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete It is hilarious an encyclopedia has such content. The similar Trump articles, instead of serving as an argument to keep this one, are a good reason why this should be deleted: to discourage editors from creating more similar redundant pages. Those Trump articles should be deleted too. Since the editors of this article have put considerable effort, a summary of the content can be placed on other relevant articles. Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete this and all similar pages on rallies. Wikipedia is not news.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete as WP:NOTNEWS and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:47, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete, and also nominate the Trump ones. WP:NOTNEWS.  Sandstein   10:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Piling on, per Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Also nominated those other two lists, for good measure: Articles for deletion/List of rallies for the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign czar  00:54, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


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