Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2020 Ontario nuclear incident alert


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Pickering Nuclear Generating Station. Tone 19:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

2020 Ontario nuclear incident alert

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This is a false alarm, nobody died, not a major event. It just happened WP:NOTNEWS. SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:54, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep . I think it is not reasonable to make a deletion decision yet (the event happened less than four hours ago). In general, it seems that large-scale false alarms have precedent to be notable (see 2005 Connecticut false evacuation alert, 2018 Hawaii false missile alert, &c.) There seems to already be significant political fallout, so I think this is an article worth keeping unless things change. Oeoi (talk) 15:59, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I agree with Delete (and redirect). If there remains sustained media coverage, we could split it away if necessary. Oeoi (talk) 22:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:03, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete (and redirect to Pickering Nuclear Generating Station). Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS and this incident has no clear established notability warranting its own page yet. If it reaches that point then a new page can easily be created, but because this is already being covered under the Incidents section of the plant’s page and there’s insufficient material to justify its own page yet, that’s the best way to handle for now. Shelbystripes (talk) 20:11, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Unlikely to have a lasting effect and you can't subscribe to Wikipedia. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:12, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep for the moment as political response is taking place... then either keep altogether or redirect to Pickering Nuclear Generating Station. As mentioned above, "large-scale false alarms have precedent to be notable (see 2005 Connecticut false evacuation alert, 2018 Hawaii false missile alert, &c.)" Spyder212 (talk) 20:17, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - This is getting notability backwards, though. Sure, this event has the potential to become notable and warrant its own page in the future, but this AfD is over whether it’s notable now. If it’s not notable enough to have its own page now, this should be deleted. If notability is established later, then it would be appropriate to re-create a standalone article at that time (potentially using content off the Pickering Station page, if it continues to be updated about this incident). That is how notability works. If your argument is that maybe it could become notable later, that is a sign you agree the page meets the policy criteria for deletion. Shelbystripes (talk) 20:49, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Or draftify, if we're feeling generous, on the off chance that this generates sustained coverage. But I highly doubt this is going to have a lasting impact. I live in Ontario and people have mostly forgotten about it a few hours later. The Hawaii and Connecticut false alarms caused panic because they stated that there was imminent danger and urged residents to evacuate. In this case the emergency alert stated There has been no abnormal release of radioactivity from the station... People DO NOT need to take any protective actions at this time. People turned it off, went back to sleep and maybe made a joke about it on Twitter. Not a notable event. SpicyMilkBoy (talk) 20:50, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Premature to delete, has citations to reliable sources. Notability is not about being "notable", it is about there existing reliable citable sources. The topic can be subsequently incorporated into an article on the facility if nothing further comes of the event. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 02:25, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Pickering Nuclear Generating Station, per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:10YT. This did happen, and is obviously notable enough to warrant mention somewhere in Wikipedia — but it doesn't clear the high bar needed to warrant its own standalone article separately from being discussed in the article on Pickering itself. Apart from possibly an internal adjustment of the emergency alert procedures to reduce the likelihood of a repeat occurence, this is not going to have any enduring long-term effects for the purposes of needing its own dedicated article. If the existence of sources automatically exempted a topic from having to have a reason why an encyclopedia article was warranted, we would have to keep an article about every house fire that ever happened. Bearcat (talk) 17:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete, as WP:NOTNEWS, words at Pickering Nuclear Generating Station is enough, of concern are some of the above words - "the event happened less than four hours ago", exactly why the article shouldn't have been created, and "Premature to delete", no, this was premature to create. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:05, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: How on earth is this notable? It was just a test! Minecrafter0271 (talk) 04:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.