Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021 Santee Cessna 340 crash


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The result was delete. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 09:49, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

2021 Santee Cessna 340 crash

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Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Small plane crashes are regular occurrences as are ones that crash into buildings. This is at least the third in the last month. Unless somebody notable is on board these events are not notable and not of any enduring significance. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:11, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep for now. The story is still developing as an investigation is due to take place. NemesisAT (talk) 15:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Aviation accidents in the United States are routinely investigated by the FAA and/or the NTSB, and this inevitably creates a paper trail. This does not automatically qualify the accident for notability, because they would ALL qualify. Carguychris (talk) 18:27, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is WP:NOTPAPER, I don't see that as a problem. NemesisAT (talk) 19:17, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But Wikipedia is also WP:NOTEVERYTHING and is not a collection of indiscriminate or run-of-the-mill information. GA crashes are notorious magnets for sensational news coverage. Recognize the slippery slope; do we really need an article about the March 1961 Bumpkin County Airport Aeronca Champ groundloop? (Not to be confused with the June 1961 Bumpkin County Airport Luscombe 8C groundloop.) Carguychris (talk) 18:24, 14 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep Per above, let the story develop and then you may delete or keep it. Please also keep a note of WP:IGNORINGATD KlientNo.1 (talk) 16:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. While tragic, the extensive San Diego Union-Tribune article says nothing to suggest that this crash has lasting significance. Information about this crash belongs in the Montgomery-Gibbs Executive Airport article; minor aviation accidents on approach are generally best summarized in the article about the destination airport. Carguychris (talk) 18:27, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is a routine occurrence. Current coverage does not support lasting significance. Saying the story is still developing is a tacit admission that it is not yet notable; Wikipedia doesn't include articles based on speculative future notability. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 19:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Not yet notable? It appears to pass WP:GNG. NemesisAT (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Why is under possible deletion? Is there information in it that you don't want the public to know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.154.9.216 (talk) 16:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 🌀 Locomotive207 - talk  🌀  00:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a newspaper or newswire service. KidAd  •  SPEAK  01:53, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep This accident seems have noatable, and also have enough references, but unfortunately not have a notable fatalities.223.136.86.4 (talk) 02:32, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Typical small plane crash which clearly falls under WP:NOTNEWS and does not appear to have generated sustained coverage. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:59, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - I live in the area and the news coverage on this incident has definitely been dropped the day after. Nothing truly special here, as unfortunate as this was. Love of Corey (talk) 03:22, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, per WP:NOTNEWS. No indication that this is a significant event that had any lasting impact. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 01:53, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.