Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022–23 Győri Audi ETO KC season


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The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation. North America1000 14:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

2022–23 Győri Audi ETO KC season

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Subject fails WP:NSEASONS. Many of the citations provided are from the club itself or from the governing bodies for the sport, so they're not independent so I see no case for WP:GNG. My PROD was removed by the article's author and I have doubts the subject will ever be notable so draftify would not be an option. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 12:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:03, 31 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  13:30, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Handball and Hungary.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 12:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep User:Chris troutman have you done any WP:BEFORE? If yes you would have easily found many independent sources about this team. Nemzeti Sport has 2796 articles about Győri. Because this will be a new season and no games are played yet, not a tone of articles are out yet. But they will follow 100 %. The club will play the Champions League and they are one of the favorites for the title. If I look for example at the 2022–23 FC Barcelona Femení season article many sources are also not independent yet. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 13:08, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I did preform a BEFORE search. I don't know that Nemzeti Sport is a reliable source. Even if it were, it seems most of the articles are about one player or another, but not discussing this upcoming season as an entity. As an immediatist, I need the present article to make a case for notability. A bunch of seemingly un-related content, especially coming from fans, doesn't impress me. You should also know that WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not an argument for you to make here. I wish you could see beyond your own partisan, parochial beliefs. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 15:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
 * There articles about the new season of the team like:, , (A new one), . These are independent news medias which discuss the upcoming season. I think this proves the notability of this team season.
 * I know WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS exists. But it's a little special that there is a double standard between football and handball. You can look at old AfD's of handball which were most of them were "keep" because some people who don't know handball thought handball is not important enough created this AfD's. 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 20:41, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This is why you have a WP:ILIKEIT viewpoint. We have SNGs to presume notability for sports like American football but that sport also enjoys robust coverage in outlets like ESPN. You're giving me links to kisalfold.hu and I don't know how reliable the source is. Foreign media will always lose out to notable outlets like The New York Times on English-language Wikipedia. Perhaps you think that's unfair. I would suggest this topic would be better received in hu-wiki rather than here. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 20:53, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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