Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Caribbean Sea Piaggio P.180 Avanti crash


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The result was redirect to Rainer Schaller.  Sandstein  13:44, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

2022 Caribbean Sea Piaggio P.180 Avanti crash

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The plane crash itself doesn't meet WP:GNG, and much less when WP:LASTING is considered as all coverage is in the immediate aftermath of the accident. WP:BLAR by was contested by, so I'm bringing this to AfD. Redirect to Rainer Schaller, as he and his family were the owners of the plane and the victims of the accident. signed,Rosguill talk 04:33, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Aviation, Caribbean, Costa Rica,  and Mexico. signed,Rosguill talk 04:33, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect - as per nom. The accident is covered in the target. Onel 5969  TT me 10:28, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect - Light civil aircraft crashes are usually non-notable. Unless this crash results in a significant change to the aircraft design or aviation operations, it likely won't be notable for the foreseeable future. -  ZLEA  T \ C 16:35, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The investigation of this event is still in its early stages and a preliminary report still hasn't been issued.  Additional details will be forthcoming on the event when a preliminary report is issued, but so far there is nothing to suggest whether this is a run-of-the-mill "pilot fell asleep" accident or a "mid-air-explosion" accident.  There has been enough worldwide coverage to satisfy WP:GNG. The crash resulted in the death of a wikipedia-notable individual, which by community consensus means this isn't just-another-small-plane-crash merge/delete, and the Rainer Schaller article is short and brief and would be overwhelmed by the details of this event which for now should be maintained as a separate article about the event, the investigation, and the aftermath/results of the same, so for that reason I oppose merging.  RecycledPixels (talk) 16:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Looking at the source you just added (, from the week of the crash), I think it's more accurate to say "there is nothing to suggest anything at all". Over 2 months out from the crash date, there's still no evidence that there was anything remarkable about the crash other than its victim. If and when additional coverage is available, an article can be considered. signed,Rosguill talk 17:13, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Rainer Schaller per nom. This article seems to me to be a case of WP:INHERITed, as opposed to inherent, notability. I would be in favor of adding some more pertinent details to the target, but I doubt a full merge is warranted here, hence my !vote.  Stony Brook  babble 23:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)


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