Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Jordan International Tournament


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus and with a disagreement as to whether friendlys are notable, I don't see this discussion reaching a consensus. Star  Mississippi  01:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

2022 Jordan International Tournament

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Friendly tournament that is lacking notability. There is no wide coverage of it except for some Arabic websites. Sakiv (talk) 23:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Sakiv (talk) 23:11, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Iraq, Jordan, Oman,  and Syria.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 06:24, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:13, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep The tournament is between four Arab national teams, that's why most sources are Arabic. I have added several more sources including from Emarat Al Youm, beIN Sports and Arab Gulf Cup Football Federation. I have also added several English language sources. There will be many more sources and coverage once the tournament starts in 2 days' time. I believe the article is definitely notable. Hashim-afc (talk) 19:13, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The article is about four friendly matches only. There is nothing significant about it and all the information added to it if any can be absorbed in the articles dedicated to the national teams. Unfortunately, the article is not the only one. Recently, many people have started creating articles with weak notability for any friendly competition. The article has to be notable in the future as well, not just the present, and that's what I doubt about this.--Sakiv (talk) 19:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The matches being friendlies is not really relevant to whether the article is notable or not, otherwise no friendly tournament at any level would have a page on Wikipedia. It depends on the coverage/notability, this a tournament held between four national teams during the FIFA international window and has coverage from several large media outlets, both English and Arabic, this is shown from the sources in the page. Hashim-afc (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:31, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Per above. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 19:21, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete it's a 4 match friendly tournament, no need for a specific article on every friendly tournament any teams have. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: Articles from AFC and beIN Sports about the tournament, for example, is that not evidence of notability? Hashim-afc (talk) 23:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per Hashim and sources in the article. None of them are exemplary but there are quite a few articles about the tournament in what look like reasonable newspapers to me, though I don't know the Arabic media landscape. Coverage only existing in Arabic websites seems irrelevant, we wouldn't say "coverage only exists in some American websites". Rusalkii  (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - tournaments where national teams of different nations are participants are indeed notable. Haueirlan (talk) 05:55, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - friendly tournaments between national teams are more than usual and almost nothing is notable about them. If the competitions are held annually, then the situation changes. These days, a friendly tournament is held between Tanzania, Libya and Uganda, as well as one between Brunei, Laos and the Maldives. There are no articles for those.--Sakiv (talk) 17:12, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:42, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep - Tournaments between National teams are definitely notable. Suryabeej      ⋠talk⋡    08:33, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep I see a fully notable article. This sounds more like a WP:IDONTLIKEIT-argument.
 * HugoAcosta9 (talk) 15:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)


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