Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 New Mexico parade ramming


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

2022 New Mexico parade ramming

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Although a sad incident, WP:NOTNEWS applies as this is unfortunately not an unusual occurrence these days. No indication this event will be particularly more notable than the many before or will happen after. At the *very best*, it's WP:TOOSOON to know if it will have any lasting impact. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime and New Mexico. Bungle (talk • contribs) 19:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: I'd like to see more opinions on this nomination. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
 * 1. While there were thankfully no fatalities, fifteen injured is a significant number for any event, especially since several of those injured were police officers and children. Even if vehicle rammings are thought of as a "common occurrence", this one has impacted a particularly large number of people.
 * 2. A prominent native American politician, Jonathan Nez, was also in attendance to this tragedy and narrowly avoided being hit. He has since made a few statements about said event, and will likely go on to make more statements on it when addressing crime in his 2022 reelection bid.
 * 3. Several national news outlets have reported on this event - including The Guardian, USA Today, The New York Post, and CNN - adding weight and impact to its happening.
 * 4. This event took place during a native American celebration, and has affected dozens of native American individuals. While it appears to have been in no way a hate crime, the vast majority of those affected are native American. Native American issues and events seem (to me) to fall victim to underrepresentation on Wikipedia DMartin24 (talk) 20:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment On your fourth point, I would note that while they are certainly underrepresented, the remedy to this is not to over-represent a different, otherwise non-notable topic. Not that that disproves the other three points of course... exoplanetaryscience (talk) 07:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Were this fifteen African-Americans, or - heaven forbid - fifteen white people who were injured, this would have had a wiki page the same day it occurred and more than one editor on it. DMartin24 (talk) 22:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You may want to exercise caution when casting aspersions without any evidence-based grounding, especially if it involves race. Expressing an opinion without any policy-based defense is not likely to strengthen your claims for the article's retention. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:13, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep Has significant coverage from both local and national sources. Just because Wikipedia is not meant to emulate a newspaper does not mean we can't cover notable recent events. Partofthemachine (talk) 00:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This precisely why we have WP:NOTNEWS, as these kind of events are, unfortunately, all too common these days and significant media coverage at the time of the incident is also common, but that doesn't mean it's a significantly notable event to warrant an article. Bungle (talk • contribs) 16:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok then. Please provide other such events which: received coverage from 3+ national news outlets, involved more than a dozen persons (preferably including a politician or other notable individual who already has a Wiki page of their own), happened during a public event, and received a response from a US state governor. And preferably provide multiple such examples from the last five years to prove that "these kind of events" are "all too common". DMartin24 (talk) 22:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Yes it was widely reported for one day. No, that's not notability. It's really too soon to establish notability for a DWI, but for instance searching for the perp in the last week brings up routine police/legal system reporting. There's no evidence that this is going to be the subject of lasting interest. Mangoe (talk) 04:47, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Extra! Extra! Delete per NOTNEWS. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per not news. From what I can tell, this isn't even a 'ramming', it's an incident of drunk driving. The characterization of this as an 'attack' seems inaccurate. In any case, no evidence of lasting impact, no evidence that there was any sustained coverage aside from the initial onslaught. ‡ El cid, el campeador  talk  19:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)


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